What’s the scariest unsolved mystery you know?

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Whether it’s personal or well known, which unsolved case makes your brain sound like dial up?

The evidence of sexual abuse is not really there; much of the physical issues can be explained by irritation caused by the incontinence problem.

No, but it's understandable that you think that.

Let me explain: in February 1997 the authorities released a partial autopsy report, which suggested evidence of sexual abuse, and which divided experts. The Ramseys brought in experts of their own who claimed it didn't show evidence of sexual abuse. That's where the "improper wiping from incontinence" theory came from. Please remember this never went to trial, it was tried in the court of public opinion, and the Ramseys were wealthy and spent a lot of money on PR. The whole "JonBenet wasn't abused, she had irritation from bedwetting" theory can be credibly traced to their own campaign people.

Since then, the full autopsy has been released, and the full autopsy shows, absolutely conclusively, that she was routinely sexually abused and has sustained repeated damage to inside her vagina, that could not have been caused by anything other than penetration.

I want to be clear: there is no debate about this at all, no "well maybe she was" or "but experts are divided."

Every single child sexual abuse expert who has studied the full autopsy report has concluded that she was sexually abused. Literally not one person who actually has access to the full evidence is holding out or saying the evidence is inconclusive.

Normally I wouldn't use an Internet source, but this post is extremely well researched and cited: https://www.reddit.com/r/JonBenetRamsey/comments/j00pe3/setting_the_record_straight_on_the_evidence_of/

I'm pretty sure they know who killed Suzy lamplugh and they have a very credible witness who saw the body being dumped in a river but too much time has passed now to recover it. Another police failing

I'm sure someone else has already replied. But incase not I believe the lady you are thinking of went by the fake name Jennifer Fairgate.

The Axeman of New Orleans. A pregnant woman, whom survived along with her unborn, and a 2 year old were among his victims.

Death of Natalie Wood.

Keddie Cabin murders.

Disappearance of Bobby Dunbar.

Walter Collins. He was the subject of the film, Changeling. This one has pretty much been solved now.

Lady of dunes was a fascinating case. She has now been named. Her husband is the believed killer.

Re the American case; I'm sure I read that the previously supportive boyfriend had decided it was lies, rather than MH, and finished the relationship?
But you are right- these mysteries terrify but fascinate us at the same time.

Ames Glover who disappeared on 5 February 1990 at the age of five months from the back seat of his father's car in west London. No trace of him has ever been found. He was taken the same day as Alexandra Griffith's, who was stolen from a new born baby ward and was found by police.

Asha degree.
Absolutely tragic and baffling

That was a complete cover up on the island as they didn't want their tourism trade affected IMO. That poor girl would no more have got out through a locked window and wandered into the thick greenery than flown. She was abducted. The poor family, with no one helping them.

Looked at the video.

Apparently Internet experts Jim and Laura are a retired profiler and a retired behaviour analyst, respectively. So neither of them are doctors or have any medical background to be able to say that the autopsy results were wrong and that's a very baffling claim to make.

I read the actual autopsy report myself. There's no question that she was strangled with the garrotte that was found with the body. Absolutely none, and it's very dangerous to start making up conspiracy theories about faked autopsy reports.

She was routinely sexually abused, and the night she was murdered, her vagina was penetrated, she was hit over the head, then someone made a DIY garotte and strangled her with it.

There are a lot of potential suspects, but the idea that Burke just accidentally hit her over the head - no. That doesn't explain the unanimous medical consensus on prior sexual abuse, the presence of the garotte, or the autopsy findings that the cause of death was strangulation.

Also I think people are misremembering what they've read online, or just not following the details very well. The theory (invented in slightly wilder parts of the Internet) is that Burke hit her over the head, the parents believed he'd killed her, so they created the garotte and put it around her neck in order to stage a fake intruder murder to cover up for Burke, and accidentally strangled her during the coverup. Which is.... pretty dramatic.

This thread is the very first time I've ever seen someone suggest that the autopsy was somehow faked/wrong and that she wasn't strangled. She was very obviously strangled.

Rude, misogynistic and totally inappropriate.

Do your tearing down of women elsewhere.

Willie McRae, some oddities there.

I don’t know if anyone had mentioned Joshua Maddox yet? I really hope he was already dead before he ended up in that chimney. I mean that scenario means he was murdered which is awful but the alternative is to horrifying.

When I was a child The Devils Footprints scared the crap out of my but now I realise it’s probably just an olden days urban myth.

The murder of Maureen Dutton a 27 year old mum of 2 boys in Knotty Ash Liverpool just a few days before Christmas in 1961. She was stabbed to death. Her older son David was just 2 years old and her new born son (Andrew) was just 3 weeks old
She was murdered in her home while her babies were present.
No one has ever been caught for her murder.

Obviously cases of missing children makes your blood run cold. Of course if a child passes its the worse thing ever. However the Parents can grieve but to not not know one way or the other must in some ways be worse.
The cases that stick in my mind are.
Ben Needham.
Madeleine McCann.
Jane, Anna and Grant Beaumont.
Andrew Godson.
Katrice Lee.
Anthonette Cayeditto.

I'm sure ill think of more.

Natalie Wood

@TheManWhoWasntThere what happened about the Claudia Lawrence suspects being scared off?

@MrsPelligrinoPetrichor
Dyatlov Pass - I saw a documentary about,they were naked because in the final stages of hypothermia you actually be some very hot hence the removal of clothes. I can't remember the rest but it was all explained

Why did they leave the tent?

I saw the documentary and think it was her dad tbh

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel
I don’t think Dyatlov Pass is baffling at all, an avalanche explains everything and some experts think one was possible in that area

Pretty weak avalanche if it left the tent still standing tho 😂
And they were found about a mile away from the tent. How do you outrun an avalanche? For a whole mile?

I'm sure I read a theory that he was a victim of Ian Watkins and unfortunately it made sense to me when reading. Don't have a link sorry

@ColdMeg I heard it was because she knew about saville and was about to expose him. Sad to think we will never know the truth

Agreed was coming on to say this case

Its not really a mystery as such anymore but The case of Paul Fronszak is fascinating.

All of the ones mentioned so far do stick with me, particularly the deaths where the bodies were found in the Dublin/Wicklow mountains. The Gardaí have suspicions over who committed these but they can't find the silver bullet that links them all to this person, because when this person was in jail, the murders stopped. If they could just find the elusive link between the women and this individual I think a lot of the unsolved murders would be solved overnight.

The scary mysteries that keep me awake are these

• How on earth did Trump manage to get on the ballot paper in the first place? He was a dodgy businessman that should never have been allowed to become the de facto leader of a political party in the US.
• How so many planes simply disappear/fall out of the sky in the modern age of aviation
• The Zodiac killer - are they still out there? Are they themselves dead? What is the story there?
• Why after so much time, women haven't taken power from all the men out there? We outnumber them how are we not taking the power back?
• How men think they are so damned superior to women and that they know best - see many many worldwide power regimes where women are not 'allowed' to do so many things.

That's scary to me.

Katrice Lee went missing from the NAAFI in 1981, she had been shopping with her mother and Aunt, her mother went from the checkout to fetch an item she'd forgotten and when she returned the child was missing, the aunt I think assumed she'd gone with her mother. No sign of her has ever been found even though the alarm was raised within minutes of her going missing. This NAAFI was off base and a river ran behind, we were in there that day and because our daughter of a similar age looked so like her it has always stuck in my mind 42 years on.

I think his name was Dr David Kelly