Tyson fury, and Paris

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Watching on Netflix, no spoilers, apart from what a woman she is and what a family they are.

I would guess they were both in their forties if I didn't know their ages. As for their daughter she should be kept in school, all she did was sit in the kitchen and couldn't even chop a vegetable, so housewiving is not for her. I also don't think Paris should be telling her she could be a Doctor or a model. If you don't attend school you cannot be a medial professional

Personally i think Venezuela is smarter than she lets on and wants to reject a lot of it

For a 13yr old seemed v passive, bored with it all. Youd think parts would excite her, eg being filmed but just seemed checked out and dismissive of her parents etc

Wonder if she'll reject that way of life. Not sure what traveller girls are usually like at that ahe

Must be mega lonely being so isolated from peer group at school, unless she lives nr lots of traveller girls her own age. Maybe she does.

Venezuela behaved just like any othe traveller girl her age.

Just because she's not in "school" doesn't mean she can't follow a career. She's fortunate enough that with her parent's wealth she could pay for any education she wants.

Why the quotation marks around school?

Most careers and universities will be much harder to get without a secondary education and qualifications. Which I think they legally have to provide? There was mention of a tutor but we didn't actually see one.

@Castform because she's not in a school but doesn't mean she isn't being educated. I assume you don't really think that you saw every inch of their lives?

If you want to know how it actually works for most gypsy and traveller children happy to explain instead of you making your own judgemental conclusions.

@Proudgypsy - apologies for my ignorance but I would love to know please. Are most traveller children home educated?

Of course we never saw every inch of their lives. It seemed very whitewashed to me. But we can't actually assume that she's getting a proper education and qualifications when there was no indication of this.

@LostThestral so the way it works for most is that they will complete primary school and then withdraw to be home educated. A person from the local authority (not sure of the official title) comes out regularly to check that work is being done.

Now for a lot of them, they have no interest in the work they are doing and only complete it because they have to, not unlike many secondary school students. For those who wish to pursue something, their parents fully encourage that and hire tutors etc as needed. That's changed a lot over the last 5/10 years I'd say.

A very small percentage will go to an actual secondary school and that is because they have chosen to do so.

thank you Proudgypsy

Saying that they are keeps the authorities of their backs.

I wonder how much editing and coaching went on behind the scene, given that while he was certainly entitled and disrespectful to his wife in the doc, they clearly tried to portray him as loving and accepting rather than someone who said he would hang his sister and chain his wife to the bed.

I really like Paris, she’s a strong woman and holds the family together. She has so much patience, while all around is chaotic!
There might be extra help we don’t see but still, she puts up with a lot. She’s naturally beautiful too.

I know of a similar large family of traveller decent who have wealth. It’s much the same as the Netflix documentary.

The wives are the strong ones, the men seem to run around, wheeling and dealing, buying expensive cars, clothes etc, but never seem happy and fulfilled, always chasing something and never seeming quite settled. It’s like they’ve never truly grown up and their wives, much like how Paris described it, feel like they have another child at times.

Their upbringing will of course have repercussions on how they treat others. I don’t know a lot about John Fury. The set up with his caravan looked lovely, was this staged for the show (?) - I did want to grab that bird cage and set the poor thing free and untether the horse and dog.

If you could put the strength of a person’s character in that boxing ring, Paris would knock out Tyson in the first round!

I personally think she deserves her own show and a HUGE medal!

99% of what we see is editing and coaching. If this is the "good side" I would not want to see the reality.

What Irish accent??
I’m Irish and I’m not hearing it?

I'm not Irish but I though they all sounded northern English to me.

Their upbringing will of course have repercussions on how they treat others. I don’t know a lot about John Fury. The set up with his caravan looked lovely, was this staged for the show (?) - I did want to grab that bird cage and set the poor thing free and untether the horse and dog.

@ZingyApple he is a violent criminal who was jailed for gouging someone's eye out.

He's a homophobe, a misogynist and a Jew-hater.

Why do you think the Taliban comparisons are so unreasonable? Oh, I see, because he's white?

Thought it was unusually open to allow the eldest two kids to be shown not really seeming that happy or in awe of their famous parents

Both seemed checked out and almost cynical / had contempt for their father

Unusual to see something where celeb kids arent PR briefed

It doesn't seem so long ago that there was condemnation of him being nominated aged for SPOTY, now he's got his own feelgood documentary.

Regarding their accent, I am from Dublin and don't think their accents are remotely Irish. They sound British to me. Completely different to the Irish traveller accent.

Agree, definitely no Irish accent, north of England

Defo not Irish accent, they don't sound like Irish travellers, they sound very Northern.

I just found this thread after watching the series. I needed to put the subtitles on as their accents were really difficult to understand at first. It’s a real shit show isn’t it? The medicated children acting like animals, scoffing coke out of bottles for gods sake, their names just wtf and Paris is mad for putting up with his shit. She’s also an absolutely dreadful mother - screeching at those kids constantly and speaking to the teenage girl like she’s a bit of shit. The whole family needs to climb in the bin and shut the lid.

@charliechaplins
Yea I'm not sure if it's their fake Irish accents..... they don't live in Ireland

They're from the gypsy community. Have you not heard a gypsy accent before?