Thread 29 Sunak: Borders, Barges and Bacteria

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Thanks pointythings

previous thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4853484-thread-28-sunak-lords-ladies-and-lame-ducks?page=1

Some good news from HoL

Cross-party Peers have defeated Government plans to unleash house-building sewage pollution in our rivers.

It seems that recently the only people doing a good job in parliament is the HoL. I'm beginning to think getting rid of them isn't such a good idea after all!

I might have guessed!

No doubt the Conservatives will rattle on that the Lords/Lab have blocked the building of 100,000 homes.

But I seem to recall the predicted increase was spread out over a long period of time - only a small proportion of plots have not been developed due to the existing legislation on waterways.

And the proposed legislation switched the cost of the off set from house builders to tax payers. We would be paying for builders to make money.

3 Conservative peers voted against the legislation and 32 cross bench peers as well as Labour.

But it is very strange that only 151 Conservative peers voted in favour.

There are 7-800 peers overall. So where were the Conservative peers? We know they will turn up if they are pressured to do so.
So where was the Conservative whip?
Did they want to lose?
Was just this another opportunity to blame Labour for their failure to reach housebuilding targets?

Call me cynical but I don't think they ever wanted to win this vote.

I am a bit behind but still watching and listening. I too will join the coup if you will enlist me I haven't got a tank or a horse but I do have my old lady shopping trolley, a skateboard and a few EU flags to piss off the Brexi crew.
In a roundup of what the government are actually doing is ... blaming Labour for everything that is happened for the last 13 years if they can't pin it on Labour then of course it is a Welsh or Scottish problem and when things get really tough blame Carol Voderman/anybody in a trade Union/ EU flags at the proms/ the beeb/doctors/ teachers/ disabled people/ kids with special educational needs or if those fail- go back to those lefty lawyers.
Oh, I forgot those pesky boats ☹️

now you mention it, I don’t think I’ve heard anyone say ‘stop the boats’ in an interview for a week or so. That must be a record.

Today was blame the doctors and nurses wanting fair pay day.

Inaction man promoted well beyond his abilities singing the same old tune.

I wonder how many of the conservative Lords have said, go ahead and remove the whip. I don't want to be associated with you?

https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1702054454348890542

I’m wrong somebody is talking about stopping the boats. The adults have arrived. This is good from Starmer. Maybe needs something about safe and legal routes, but possibly good to stay away from that topic while Tories are still trying to convince everyone all immigrants are bad.

"In a roundup of what the government are actually doing is ... blaming Labour for everything that is happened for the last 13 years if they can't pin it on Labour then of course it is a Welsh or Scottish problem and when things get really tough blame Carol Voderman/anybody in a trade Union/ EU flags at the proms/ the beeb/doctors/ teachers/ disabled people/ kids with special educational needs or if those fail- go back to those lefty lawyers. "

That's a fair assessment.

Yes I think focusing on the gangs is a good start. I'm sure I read that Macron has invited Starmer to Paris. We could do with a decent relationship with France to work through the issues in the Channel.

First schools, now hospitals

Rishi Sunak blocked plans to rebuild five hospitals riddled with crumbling concrete three years ago, prompting warnings of “catastrophic” risk to patient safety.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/13/rishi-sunak-blocked-rebuild-of-hospitals-with-crumbling-concrete

Reading that article it looks as if Steve Barclay also had a hand in delaying funding for reconstruction - despite knowing that incidents in crumbling hospitals were delaying treatment for patients.

I was just coming here to post that. Presumably this also isn’t the fault of PM Rishi Sunak. It was that other Chancellor Rishi Sunak.

Starmer, Reeves etc in France with Macron is a pretty good illustration of where everybody sees the power being after the next election.

Hinchingbrooke is the hospital a lot of Barclatly's constituents use. It's also the one I would use

Their new 3 word slogan seems to be "Labour led wales".

I've heard that mentioned a lot recently.

I used to fact check the briefing for PMQs that Spads produced. "Labour led Wales" was a favourite to have on standby.

Some mistake surely?
Boris built 40 new hospitals in his time as Prime Minister and spent £350million a week from the EU on the NHS.

It's a good thing you reminded us of these. Somehow it's easy to forget them. Almost as if they didn't exist.

Did laugh this morning. Chatting to friends on our walk (the life of swim parents) about recent trip to America. She said she was grilled by immigration and one question was "what's Brexit".

Without missing a beat me and the other parent replied "shit" at the same time

What she doesn't know and I do is the other parent is a staunch Tory still stuck on "but Boris got the vaccines done".

But it was nice to have some back up 🤣🤣

Talking of Boris getting the vaccines done, CDC are recommending this winter’s covid vaccine for everyone. Something we still seem to be ruling out for reasons unknown. Which is quite worrying given the number of people out of work on long term sick is still skyrocketing and doesn’t show signs of slowing down.

I read somewhere that vulnerable groups are now getting it? I'm wondering if it'll be done with flu jobs this year for those groups? Or if it's book through the nhs?

Ds gets flu jab as neuro disability and I get it as his carer. I'm taking the covid one of offered as we already have it ripping through school on week 2.

Starmer is meeting with Europol leaders at their HQ in the Hague today

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1702051522731778553.html

Since I am back working in the NHS I will offered the flu jab through work. If I am offered a COVID booster, I'll take it.

You should be offered it, itsgetting weird, carers are on the list for this year.

Spooky, isn't it? 👻 Maybe we all have collective amnesia.