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The immigrant barge - what’s actually wrong with using it?

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NC523 · 08/08/2023 18:16

Educate me!

I looked at pics from the inside, it all looks very much like standard student accommodation to me, including common rooms/relaxation areas/health support on board. Residents can go on & off the boat, it’s passed fire etc safety and been used to house people in lots of other situations. I don’t understand why people think it’s not ok. Can anyone explain please?

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CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 20:19

Awittyfool · 13/08/2023 20:05

But why do the EU not let anyone live in their member states even when we were able to prior to Brexit. Are they racists or do you think…there may be other reasons.

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No country lets just anyone live in their borders so yes you’re right

AdamRyan · 13/08/2023 20:31

Awittyfool · 13/08/2023 19:51

There are racists in every country. That’s most of the reason people are seeking asylum.

There are many reasons to have rules about who lives in your country that aren’t about racism. It’s why the EU won’t let U.K. citizens just rock up and live in their borders. It’s not about our race or colour.

Eh?
Are you saying people seek asylum because their home country is racist against them? How does that work? Confused

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 20:37

AdamRyan · 13/08/2023 20:31

Eh?
Are you saying people seek asylum because their home country is racist against them? How does that work? Confused

They’re saying all kinds of bollocks on this thread. It’d be funny if it weren’t so sad.

AdamRyan · 13/08/2023 20:40

I'm enjoying the misquoting of links. Always find it funny when people's Google skills mess up

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 20:41

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 20:37

They’re saying all kinds of bollocks on this thread. It’d be funny if it weren’t so sad.

I haven’t bandied insulting words about though. You can check all my posts in this thread and you won’t find any.

Until you wanted to insult someone

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 20:43

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 20:41

I haven’t bandied insulting words about though. You can check all my posts in this thread and you won’t find any.

Until you wanted to insult someone

Who did I insult? They could mean anyone.

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 20:44

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 20:43

Who did I insult? They could mean anyone.

They’re saying all kinds of bollocks on this thread. It’d be funny if it weren’t so sad.

This is about a poster on this thread

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 20:44

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 20:44

They’re saying all kinds of bollocks on this thread. It’d be funny if it weren’t so sad.

This is about a poster on this thread

It’s about quite a lot of them actually.

Awittyfool · 13/08/2023 20:44

@AdamRyan A quick Google will tell you Afghanistan is a multi ethnic tribal country with different languages and cultures . Hence years of conflict. So yes.

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 20:45

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 20:44

It’s about quite a lot of them actually.

So you are insulting people 🤷‍♂️

Your earlier claim is defunct

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 20:49

People generally resort to insulting or when they lose the argument

Like people who think immigration issues will die as people do they haven’t got much of a case.

Amy8 · 13/08/2023 20:51

NC523 · 08/08/2023 18:16

Educate me!

I looked at pics from the inside, it all looks very much like standard student accommodation to me, including common rooms/relaxation areas/health support on board. Residents can go on & off the boat, it’s passed fire etc safety and been used to house people in lots of other situations. I don’t understand why people think it’s not ok. Can anyone explain please?

Live on it and report back yourself

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 20:54

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 20:45

So you are insulting people 🤷‍♂️

Your earlier claim is defunct

No, I’m not insulting anyone. It’s a statement of fact. There’s a lot of bollocks talked on most MN threads.

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 20:56

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 20:54

No, I’m not insulting anyone. It’s a statement of fact. There’s a lot of bollocks talked on most MN threads.

You included?

If you don’t think so, as I’m sure you won’t, others probably do

So what? How does you posting that help discussion

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 21:01

Yup quite possibly me included. 🤷‍♀️ Can we stop derailing the thread now.

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 21:03

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 21:01

Yup quite possibly me included. 🤷‍♀️ Can we stop derailing the thread now.

Good idea. Next time drop the mindless insults even if you have run out of a decent argument.

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 21:04

Yes ma’am 🫡

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 21:06

😬 I love that someone made a big deal out of not insulting people btw

Short term memory or what

Blossomtoes · 13/08/2023 21:08

Yup, must be dementia. 🫠

AdamRyan · 13/08/2023 21:10

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 20:44

They’re saying all kinds of bollocks on this thread. It’d be funny if it weren’t so sad.

This is about a poster on this thread

I read it as multiple odd things being said tbh. I don't think it was targeted

Luckydip1 · 13/08/2023 21:12

The barge isn't that bad, nice views and similar finishes to a Travelodge, I don't know what all the fuss is about.

AdamRyan · 13/08/2023 21:14

Awittyfool · 13/08/2023 20:44

@AdamRyan A quick Google will tell you Afghanistan is a multi ethnic tribal country with different languages and cultures . Hence years of conflict. So yes.

Oh. You were talking about Afghanistan. I thought you said it was most of the reason people sought asylum.

Tbh I think most afghani asylum seekers don't want to live under a brutal regime where women/non "compliant" men are at risk of extreme violence/murder/imprisonment. But you may know better of course

CloudyMcCloud · 13/08/2023 21:16

I haven’t seen much stand up to scrutiny along the safe routes, prosecute, take them back lines tbh and no answers on how international law will work when boats arrive outside those routes

I wouldn’t say people are posting bollocks but I think they’re avoiding answering that question as they can see it’s a major flaw

Or maybe they still can’t see that as it’s one step too far idk but the issue will still exist

pointythings · 13/08/2023 21:20

Luckydip1 · 13/08/2023 21:12

The barge isn't that bad, nice views and similar finishes to a Travelodge, I don't know what all the fuss is about.

Travelodges found to have legionella in the water get shut down. Travelodges exceeding occupancy get shut down. Travelodges failing fire safety checks get shut down.
🙄

calmcoco · 13/08/2023 21:21

I haven’t seen much stand up to scrutiny along the safe routes, prosecute, take them back lines This is what other European nations do.

If your objective is zero immigration it won't be what you want, but zero immigration = fucked economy.

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