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What the fuck made this bastard

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WhatcreaturemaderthishHellWEB · 07/08/2023 10:04

What on earth made this??

What the fuck made this bastard
What the fuck made this bastard
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dawngreen · 07/08/2023 12:35

Forgot to say bats do not build nests just roost in your loft.

JusthereforXmas · 07/08/2023 12:37

DyslexicPoster · 07/08/2023 11:57

As someone with both a degree in biology which included entomology and working in various fruit packing factories, you'd be very wrong to say that exotic insects very rarely make it to the UK. Very.

I found a hairy, hand size tarantula on a pineapple alive. I'm not just being a pathetic screamer. I know what it was because I I'm sure I know more than someone who has not studied entomology to my level.

Various scorpions running off into the Kent County side. Black widows daily in grapes to m&s. We found 20 in one day. Snakes. They all survive cold store very nicely. One day in Fyffes someone was bitten in the face by a massive spider getting a box of bannanas off a pallet.

How they fair out in the open I don't know. Dispite all of this I don't know anyone who was bitten personally so it was still very safe.

Anyway it looks to me like a tunnel / funnel type spider but it's really hard to tell on my phone. Size of Web is not related to spider size. They just lerk in the nests, unlike spiders inside that love to run about. I could pick any insect up outside, I still dislike them in the house. Just because I dislike them, doesn't mean I'd ever kill one.

Did the op say she wanted to kill it? I think not.

I saw a man get stung by a scorpion last week (it wasn't wild, he was a zoologist) he carried on as normal and said it hurt no more than a bee sting.

He said he has been bitten and stung by virtually every creature they own (spiders, tarantulas, snakes etc...). Overall he said the only animal ever to nearly kill him was an Asian centipede.

I had heard centipedes are downright nasty before even small British ones can get in a vivarium and kill everything even much larger lizards.

Highdaysandholidays1 · 07/08/2023 12:37

@Agapornis @VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji I said my mum told me as a child that spiders could not bite in the UK, now they can. This is not disputed! I've been bitten myself and my dd has recently been bitten! you are right, they are not harmful and very unlikely to be serious. But they do bite whereas most native species do not.

I thought that the most common false widow came in through ports in the SW in the 80s and 90s and spread across the country from there. I lived in that area during that time and saw them for the first time in the early 2000s.

I'm not scaremongering, these are different spiders than the spiders of my youth (so house spiders, daddy long-legs) and it's interesting that with the hotter weather there are more of them about. I agree that they shouldn't be killed if they are not disturbing you.

It's sensible to keep an eye on any bite, dog bite, spider bite and so on in case it gets infected, my daughter has been bitten by both fairly recently (!) and both times it got green and gunky, similar to how mosquito bites can sometimes get infected.

chaosmaker · 07/08/2023 12:41

@WhatcreaturemaderthishHellWEB just leave it alone

Luckydog7 · 07/08/2023 12:41

Based on comparing to the bricks i would say the size of the nest is 3cm max 4cm round. The hole 2-3cm. Way too small to be a bird nest. I would agree a large spider.

Littlegoth · 07/08/2023 12:44

I think you are going to have to move

LulooLemon · 07/08/2023 12:44

It's just nature doing it's thing and should be left alone.

Be proud the owner of the nest has chosen your home!

Stravaig · 07/08/2023 12:56

Such beautiful construction, in miniature 😍

Hurryupdoris · 07/08/2023 12:57

I agree with other posters. Spiders nest.

Tabitha005 · 07/08/2023 12:59

StagnantBogOfDespair · 07/08/2023 11:16

So many people these days, see a creature or habitat and instanly want to destroy it.
Then complain about the planet turning to shit and the weather, floods, fires, spoiled holidays, it's all me me, me.
Stop bloody killing things for the sake of it, they rarely hurt you. Put some netting on the windows to keep them out, but leave them in peace.

Hard agree. The planet's fucked enough as it is without humans continually attempting to batter every insect or spider that comes within a foot of us.

WhatcreaturemaderthishHellWEB · 07/08/2023 13:01

@DyslexicPoster.. Thank you.

I'm shocked by 20 black widow in m and s grapes!..

Im also award that spiders can and do hitch rides in fruit.

Did you see my post that either much earlier this summer or late last summer I did see a very large black look good creature quite close to that nest... I thought it could be a bat?
We had a mild winter and obviously very hot last year.

I can't reach it even if I wanted to. Thank you for noting that i have not mentioned in moving it!

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WhatcreaturemaderthishHellWEB · 07/08/2023 13:17

@Tabitha005 @StagnantBogOfDespair

I can assure you both that my garden is a wonderful habitat for an enormous amount of insects and wild life. It has a very wide variety of plants and flowers and shrubs, Far more space than my neighbors gardens. My garden is an oasis die them

The two see not mutually exclusive.
I have an extremely large unusual spiders web right by my window and i am nervous.

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holabiatches · 07/08/2023 13:22

Poke it!

Museya15 · 07/08/2023 13:23

i have a fascination with spiders and this looks like a tube web spider web. Do you live in the south of england, they are more common there?! They are very shy creatures, you rarely see them but when you do they are big (UKs biggest.) They are black all over.

WhatcreaturemaderthishHellWEB · 07/08/2023 13:26
  • far more so.. Sake space
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WhatcreaturemaderthishHellWEB · 07/08/2023 13:28

@Museya15 I think we have quite a few of those in our holes brick work.

Definitely different size scale.

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VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 07/08/2023 13:29

Highdaysandholidays1 · 07/08/2023 12:37

@Agapornis @VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji I said my mum told me as a child that spiders could not bite in the UK, now they can. This is not disputed! I've been bitten myself and my dd has recently been bitten! you are right, they are not harmful and very unlikely to be serious. But they do bite whereas most native species do not.

I thought that the most common false widow came in through ports in the SW in the 80s and 90s and spread across the country from there. I lived in that area during that time and saw them for the first time in the early 2000s.

I'm not scaremongering, these are different spiders than the spiders of my youth (so house spiders, daddy long-legs) and it's interesting that with the hotter weather there are more of them about. I agree that they shouldn't be killed if they are not disturbing you.

It's sensible to keep an eye on any bite, dog bite, spider bite and so on in case it gets infected, my daughter has been bitten by both fairly recently (!) and both times it got green and gunky, similar to how mosquito bites can sometimes get infected.

No they’ve been about since Victorian times in the U.K.

they just made the papers around the 2000’s. Hence the “we must fumigate the schools” narrative.

Quite a few considered native spiders can bite.

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 07/08/2023 13:30

Museya15 · 07/08/2023 13:23

i have a fascination with spiders and this looks like a tube web spider web. Do you live in the south of england, they are more common there?! They are very shy creatures, you rarely see them but when you do they are big (UKs biggest.) They are black all over.

the wildlife trusts and field study centres do some incredible courses on them. I truly recommend them.

WhatcreaturemaderthishHellWEB · 07/08/2023 13:31

@mogtheexcellent.. Not necessarily.

I grew up in a house, infested with huge massive house spiders.

I was the one scared

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ChrisPPancake · 07/08/2023 13:36

WhatcreaturemaderthishHellWEB · 07/08/2023 10:22

@CosyCoffee it's absolutely HUGE

Just how is it "huge"? Your gutter is likely to me an absolute max of 20cm across (likely around 115mm), and the nest is less than a quarter of that.

Leave it alone.

ChrisPPancake · 07/08/2023 13:36

Be not me

WhatcreaturemaderthishHellWEB · 07/08/2023 13:37

@Highdaysandholidays1

I've done quite a bit off research on false widows because we had an infestation a few years ago.
Because of their size I wasn't immediately scared it them and as people said... Happy to have them making webs in windows etc.
However I then became aware of people around me seemingly getting bitten and needing antibiotics.

I then counted 20 in my home.

Large and small.

When I started to looking for them specifically I realised we did have a problem. They are the most successful spider breed across Europe and have grown and colonised faster than any others.

The reason they are more in the news is because they have spread so far and therefore are sooo many of them. More people are getting bitten and it can cause a nasty reaction.

Again due to high numbers of people getting more nasty bites, medics and scientists are looking at the fact they could have be come more venomous than previously.

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Haretest · 07/08/2023 13:40

WhatcreaturemaderthishHellWEB · 07/08/2023 10:22

@CosyCoffee it's absolutely HUGE

What? It's TINY! If that's a drainpipe next to it?

Moonshine160 · 07/08/2023 13:42

Following with interest! Can we have more photos please?

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