Kevin Spacey

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Just saw the not guilty verdict. I haven’t been following it closely but from the bits I have seen, I’m surprised. Was this what was expected?

As PP there is a difference between being an annoying flirt and criminal behaviour. He might have been a bloody nuisance but clearly the jury felt he fell short of actual criminality.

What a load of sexist bullshit.

@Aquamarine1029 oh lord, I’m not in charge of the prosecution, it’s just my opinion! I just think there’s patterns of behaviour with creepy, predatory men, and they often go back years, and yes, often skirt the bounds of legality so they can be very difficult to prosecute. It’s not just sleeping with lots of people, it’s seeing them as conquests and things you can play with. Very male behaviour and clearly goes back years.

Get back to work Kevin!

you can't prosecute someone for
having different morals to you. The law determines whats legal or
not.

I’m not saying the verdict isn’t correct. But not being prosecuted isn’t the same thing as nothing at all happened.

Also, I personally have no issue with anyone sleeping around or doing what they want in their sex life. I do have an issue with powerful men abusing that power to take advantage of other people. That’s the problem.

you have to be able to show that the law was broken. Even if you're right and there was an abuse of power, there needs to be proof/evidence/ credible witnesses etc

So, pretty much the behaviour of every female "influencer".

When I lived in London I used to see him about with very young and very handsome men. I'm sure there was a power imbalance in his sexual relationships.

I was an admirer of Kevin Spacey as an actor for years so was really disappointed when the accusations came out.
I think it's the "What a Creep" podcast which did an episode about him.

Looks like he's a predatory creep but his behaviour didn't cross the boundary into criminality (or that couldn't be proved and it's important to maintain the presumption of innocence).

More of a Philip Schofield than a Harvey Weinstein perhaps? (in terms os culpability;sexuality is irrelevant).

Philip Schofield, Huw Edwards, Kevin Spacey. All creepy predatory men who have a thing for much, much younger victims.

Not illegal but their careers have been ruined for a reason.

Given the jury's findings, it seems likely that they would have resulted in Not Guilty verdicts if they'd proceeded.

That's an accusation that is made so often, not least against women. It isn't evidence of any crime.

@Clymene Mr Spacey’s accusers are apparently men now in their 30s/40s so the age difference isn’t huge tbh.
I wouldn’t say they were “much much” younger.

Sometimes people behave like tarts. It doesn't make them guilty and need to result in loss of career. John barrowman is an obvious tart should he also lose his job? A gay man witch hunt has gone on here.

Oh my goodness. How long have you known him? Has he always been like that? What did he do to you?

I'm not against going after every affluent, successful, powerful man who uses his affluence, success and power to behave piggishly. But if we're going after one let's go after them all, not just the ones who target men.

I’m not sure John “gets his dick out in public” Barrowman is a good person to compare anyone to!

I'd say exclusively pursuing men who are 20-30 years younger than you is much much younger.

Some of the allegations are from men who were teenagers. Spacey has never disputed that he was on Epstein's flight log either.

That’s hearsay clearly…! Not evidence.

I sometimes wonder is it’s about time we abolished juries.

It was not proved beyond reasonable doubt, seems to me. There are some people who I say were acquitted, some found not guilty, because in my opinion there is a difference.

Aquamarine is joking.

But not according to the evidence in front of a jury after a long trial. But hey, your uninformed opinion is much more relevant.
if you are so sure why not post with your name attached and invite him to sue?

I'm joking. Clearly.