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Can anyone decipher this name from 1877?

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TheOwlChronicles · 23/07/2023 20:58

I know at first glance it looks like Lucy M Lloyd

But the capital L of Lloyd is completely different to the capital letter of the first name - and I'm sure Incan see an o! Making it not Lucy

Any thoughts please?

Can anyone decipher this name from 1877?
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RyanGoslingsTan · 24/07/2023 17:32

SabrinaThwaite · 24/07/2023 17:21

Doubt it’s “Cloyd” as there are no births registered on FreeBMD for that name between 1838 and 1880.

It only covers England and Wales though

Ringsender2 · 24/07/2023 17:34

I'm pretty sure that it's Louey M. Floyd.

pompomdaisy · 24/07/2023 17:37

Louey Loyd

Ringsender2 · 24/07/2023 17:37

Actually, I'm plumping for Loucy M. Floyd (Loucy as a different spelling of Lucy)

MMBaranova · 24/07/2023 17:38

> like in this case - I have nothing more to go on

Pity. Still, it's an interesting puzzle. Where did you pick it up though? General location might narrow things down.

DinaofCloud9 · 24/07/2023 17:43

How are people seeing it as Floyd? It looks nothing like an F

TheOwlChronicles · 24/07/2023 17:44

@MMBaranova this one was from eBay! I usually pick things up at antique fairs, charity shops, but I was looking for something specific when I stumbled across this.

And I LOVE a history mystery! Love them less when it just can't be solved!

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SirVixofVixHall · 24/07/2023 17:44

I feel very sure that is Lloyd. The first name is Louey or Lovey , I have seen Lovey as a name, but Louey is more likely.

Dogsitterwoes · 24/07/2023 18:26

I think it's Honey M Lloyd.

Lifeetc · 24/07/2023 18:47

Dogsitterwoes · 24/07/2023 18:26

I think it's Honey M Lloyd.

That's what I thought with the "h" of honey being lower case, but I got jumped on for it!

MMBaranova · 24/07/2023 18:49

I am not saying this is the person concerned, but you never know. My sources: records accessed via Find My Past and Ancestry and a family tree on the latter.

A New Zealand resident has posted a tree where her great great aunt is recorded as a Louisa Mary Lloyd. Remember that trees online range from accurate to error-ridden. There's a photograph of said Louisa Mary Lloyd said to be from 1923. She doesn't marry, which makes me think of the note and ring.

Probable facts linked to this L M L:

Birth registered Q4 1852 Islington
Aged 9 in 1861 Census living in Islington
Aged 19 in 1871 ditto (mother not father now listed as head of household)

Through to... (assume a time passes swirly effect, there are other probable events on record)

Louisa M Lloyd in 1939 register spinster living in Eaton Socon, then Bedfordshire, retired Assistant Matron, born Aug 1852
Probate 1944 for above Eaton Socon address, but died at an address in Edmonton Middlesex aged 91.

Well that was a rabbit hole.

SabrinaThwaite · 24/07/2023 18:55

RyanGoslingsTan · 24/07/2023 17:32

It only covers England and Wales though

Cloyd is the anglicised version of Clwyd, so you’d think a Welsh family name would at least have some births recorded.

It’s a really unusual surname - only 4 births (all post 1955) and 3 deaths recorded in E&W between 1838 and 1997. Nothing in Scotland from what I can see.

TheOwlChronicles · 24/07/2023 19:00

@MMBaranova that's very impressive! Ha, just shout me if you fancy any other rabbit holes to vanish down! I've got quite a lot of letters, tapestries, postcards etc etc 😀

All kept in an early Victorian rack! Err bar the tapestries!

These little pockets of ordinary history get me every time

Can anyone decipher this name from 1877?
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BMW6 · 24/07/2023 19:02

I vote Louey m Floyd

RyanGoslingsTan · 24/07/2023 19:27

@TheOwlChronicles there was a Louise M Cloyd born in August 1860 in Iowa. (Can't find the exact date) but could this has been a birthday present for her 17th?

Rosylarose · 24/07/2023 19:27

Take a look at this record from the 1891 census. The database record gives it as "Loney Lloyd" but the MS record is clearly "Louey Lloyd" to me. This is the only Loney/Louey Lloyed in the census record and there is also no Louey Floyd. Born in 1874 in Iron Bridge, Shropshire, and in 1891 was a paintress, still living there in the home of her widowed mother.

Can anyone decipher this name from 1877?
Rosylarose · 24/07/2023 19:28

Sorry, Lloyd, not Lloyed

MMBaranova · 24/07/2023 19:38

@TheOwlChronicles haha, I do best when there is a little more context.

As for 'Louey', I think that was the affectionate name she was known by and it is Louise or Louisa.

TommyandGina · 24/07/2023 19:41

First name looks like Loucy to me

ivykaty44 · 24/07/2023 19:43

On the second piece of paper you uploaded the word Love is written

The L for love is the same as the first L for the first name before the M Lloyd

Could it be that Louey is a nickname for a longer name Lawrence, Louisa or it could be the name Lewis

ivykaty44 · 24/07/2023 19:56

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ivykaty44 · 24/07/2023 19:57

sorry its a daughter not a son

ivykaty44 · 24/07/2023 20:01

March quarter of 1874 there is a Lucy and the 1891 census was done April so she would have had a birthday by the night of the census to make her 17 on 5th April 1891?

KnickersBockersGlory · 24/07/2023 20:05

TheOwlChronicles · 23/07/2023 21:03

Hmm

But can it be Louey if the capital letter L is so different to the surname L?

I think the surname is Floyd, not Lloyd.

ivykaty44 · 24/07/2023 20:17

I think the surname is Floyd, not Lloyd.

yet the census has the name as Lloyd and then cross referencing with the census - if that is the correct entry, the Sarah Ann Lloyd (Reynolds) is found marrying William Dudley Lloyd