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Can anyone decipher this name from 1877?

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TheOwlChronicles · 23/07/2023 20:58

I know at first glance it looks like Lucy M Lloyd

But the capital L of Lloyd is completely different to the capital letter of the first name - and I'm sure Incan see an o! Making it not Lucy

Any thoughts please?

Can anyone decipher this name from 1877?
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TheMadGardener · 23/07/2023 23:24

Definitely Louey. There was a Great Aunt Louey in my family who was actually Louisa - I think it wasn't uncommon at that time for Louey to be used as a nickname for Louisa, Louise or even Lucy.
In the same family as Great Aunt Louey there was also a Gladdy (short for Gladys) and a Henny (Henrietta).

Raindropsoncanvas · 23/07/2023 23:26

I see the surname Lloyd. The formation of capital F in “From” is quite different.

321user123 · 23/07/2023 23:28

TheOwlChronicles · 23/07/2023 21:08

And another

OP when comparing the note to the name it is very clear that is an “N” in the name look at “love and” in the first line of the note.

so I’d say Loney M Lloyd

SwedishEdith · 23/07/2023 23:40

321user123 · 23/07/2023 23:28

OP when comparing the note to the name it is very clear that is an “N” in the name look at “love and” in the first line of the note.

so I’d say Loney M Lloyd

I think the u and n look too similar - see August - to be able to say it's definitely an n.

Raindropsoncanvas · 23/07/2023 23:45

Where is the estate? Could that be a clue?

SabrinaThwaite · 23/07/2023 23:52

Louey M Lloyd - with Louey likely being an abbreviation for Louisa (DH had a Great Aunt Louey).

There are a few Louisa M Lloyds coming up on the birth records that might fit:

Louisa Murray Lloyd b 1841 Orsett
Louisa Mary Lloyd b 1851 Shoreditch
Louisa Mary Lloyd b 1852 Islington
Louisa Maria Lloyd b 1855 Greenwich
Louisa Mary Lloyd b 1862 Chorlton (probably too young though?)

Catsmere · 24/07/2023 04:36

Louey was a common shortening of Louise then. I don't think the capitals are that different, one just has more or a flourish. It's not like handwriting is completely uniform.

TheOwlChronicles · 24/07/2023 11:34

@Raindropsoncanvas sadly no. No further clues. This was part of an estate that came up at auction so there are some degrees of separation going on in this case.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and interest. I think we are right with Louey M Lloyd aren't we?

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SabrinaThwaite · 24/07/2023 11:58

The initials provided on the letter - are they W W V?

I wonder if you can tie someone with those initials in to a Louey M Lloyd?

RebeccaCloud9 · 24/07/2023 12:01

Joney?

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 24/07/2023 12:14

In my opinion it's definitely two L's and it looks like Louey M Lloyd

TheOwlChronicles · 24/07/2023 12:18

@SabrinaThwaite wouldn't that be cool? So little to go on but the clues are definitely there! W W V are fairly unusual initials especially when linked to a Louey M Lloyd

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TheOhGodOfHangovers · 24/07/2023 15:13

SabrinaThwaite · 23/07/2023 23:52

Louey M Lloyd - with Louey likely being an abbreviation for Louisa (DH had a Great Aunt Louey).

There are a few Louisa M Lloyds coming up on the birth records that might fit:

Louisa Murray Lloyd b 1841 Orsett
Louisa Mary Lloyd b 1851 Shoreditch
Louisa Mary Lloyd b 1852 Islington
Louisa Maria Lloyd b 1855 Greenwich
Louisa Mary Lloyd b 1862 Chorlton (probably too young though?)

I spent so long looking through FreeBMD last night trying to tie one of those to a marriage with WWV. Now Louisa doesn’t even look like a real word any more. 🤪

Imanalias · 24/07/2023 15:18

TheOhGodOfHangovers · 24/07/2023 15:13

I spent so long looking through FreeBMD last night trying to tie one of those to a marriage with WWV. Now Louisa doesn’t even look like a real word any more. 🤪

Me too! I wonder if the mysterious gift giver was either an admirer who fell by the way, or a close female friend. The short note doesn't quite feel romantic enough for a prospective spouse, to me.

Flatbellyfella · 24/07/2023 15:36

Louey M Floyd

SabrinaThwaite · 24/07/2023 16:28

Could the initial be W W Y? Unfortunately there’s not enough sample handwriting to get a good idea of the last letter.

Louisa Maria Lloyd married in Gravesend in Q3 1878. One of the men listed as also marrying in Gravesend that quarter is Walter Yates. A Walter William Yates was born in Sheppey Q4 1848.

Which is probably all highly unlikely but it would make a good story.

Midnightpony · 24/07/2023 16:31

Loucy Lloyd.
I write the same letters different ways. Capital E, S, G , can all come out different in the same text

ChopperC110P · 24/07/2023 16:33

JaninaDuszejko · 23/07/2023 21:03

This. The surname is very clearly Lloyd.

No. That’s an F, Floyd.

mightymam · 24/07/2023 16:55

Loucy?

RyanGoslingsTan · 24/07/2023 17:03

Louey M Cloyd

RyanGoslingsTan · 24/07/2023 17:06

If you look at this, I think the surname is Cloyd

Can anyone decipher this name from 1877?
MMBaranova · 24/07/2023 17:13

>The ring and note came from an old estate...

More context would help. Where does the estate seem to be from? What puts the ring and the note together? What else do you have / have you seen that is linked to this? And so on. Also what do you want to get out of this?

One of my rules of thumb is that people in the past generally formed letters better than I can, but that they didn't always do so consistently.

SabrinaThwaite · 24/07/2023 17:21

Doubt it’s “Cloyd” as there are no births registered on FreeBMD for that name between 1838 and 1880.

TheOwlChronicles · 24/07/2023 17:23

@MMBaranova I have no more context I'm afraid. As I've mentioned further up, I pick up antique bits and pieces and sometimes - like in this case - I have nothing more to go on

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TheOwlChronicles · 24/07/2023 17:23

@SabrinaThwaite god that would be amazing!

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