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BBC Presenter and yet more allegations

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friendlycat · 11/07/2023 23:28

It would appear that the front page of tomorrow’s The Sun has further allegations about messages with a new 17 year old. Creepy hearts etc

Scrolling through Sky news and seeing front pages of the papers. This appears bottom right on The Sun front page.

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JamieFrasersfurrysporran · 12/07/2023 20:13

CherryCokeFanatic · 12/07/2023 19:07

we support you Huw! ❤️

Er no we don't

JamieFrasersfurrysporran · 12/07/2023 20:14

EarringsandLipstick · 12/07/2023 19:56

@MissHoney85

Really?? The only threshold here is 'not illegal'?

You don't think that someone in a position of power, influence & authority as Huw Edwards was, does not have a requirement to act a bit better than 'not illegal'?

His engagement with this young person - a 17 yo! - is repugnant. The level of apologist support for him on Twiiter from other media figures is horrifying.

This

Lalgarh · 12/07/2023 20:17

The Sun are now outright denying they had reported any criminality

Blossomtoes · 12/07/2023 20:18

Lalgarh · 12/07/2023 20:17

The Sun are now outright denying they had reported any criminality

Of course they are. They can see the writs coming.

bellac11 · 12/07/2023 20:19

Lalgarh · 12/07/2023 20:17

The Sun are now outright denying they had reported any criminality

Blimey thats some backpedaling

Sunnydays41 · 12/07/2023 20:22

EarringsandLipstick · 12/07/2023 19:05

Tend to agree. The whole approach smacks of expert crisis management, a team carefully crafting a narrative & version of events to elicit sympathy & minimise responsibility.

I don't doubt he is mentally unwell, or receiving in-patient care. Trial by media is also inappropriate.

However, clearly stating that the behaviour is reprehensible, unacceptable and below what should be expected from someone in authority & influence, is completely appropriate & right to do.

I feel very sorry for the individuals whose names have been blithely bandied about on social media, forcing them into positions of public denial.

This.

bellac11 · 12/07/2023 20:30

Lalgarh · 12/07/2023 20:28

Link to statement from The Sun

https://news.sky.com/story/huw-edwards-bbc-presenter-latest-police-teenager-explicit-pictures-12917955?postid=6166292#liveblog-body

"...The Sun has no plans to publish further allegations. We must also re-emphasise that The Sun at no point in our original story alleged criminality and also took the decision neither to name Mr Edwards nor the young person involved in the allegations..."

lol

friendlycat · 12/07/2023 20:33

I feel very sorry for his wife and family.

But there are also BBC employees past and present who have also raised allegations of abuse of power. This was released virtually at the same time of his wife’s statement.

Leading such a double life cannot have helped his mental issues.

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EmmaEmerald · 12/07/2023 20:34

Absolute barstewards at the Sun. Currently caring for mum who is very ill. Even she is furious about this
she's just been asking me about the law but I cannot see it ever changing to prevent this sort of intrusion happening again

the80sweregreat · 12/07/2023 20:36

The sun washing their hands of it now.
I guess that the age the picture sharing and paying for them took place was always a grey area. I had no idea myself of what the laws are about all this until I read these threads. Not that I would ever do this , but how many people are aware that different laws apply for this type of activity ( for want of a better word here)
If nothing else it's been an eye opener.
I'm sure that HE was aware of the laws , but depends how truthful the young person was too and how they managed to get on the site to sell the pics etc underage to start with.
He should never have got into any of this though , he probably thought he'd get away with it all and over three years too!

Honeychickpea · 12/07/2023 20:40

lemmein · 12/07/2023 20:02

As a mum, if I found out a 60 year old rich man was paying my 17 year old for explicit pics I'd ruin him by any means possible - even if I had to use The Scum to do it!

I would hope to teach my child not to profit from explicit pictures.

RedToothBrush · 12/07/2023 20:41

Lalgarh · 12/07/2023 20:17

The Sun are now outright denying they had reported any criminality

That is back peddling.

Pretty sure at this point we can say that inappropriate conduct has happened. That's as far as I'm willing to push it.

I think it's clear he has acted in a way below the standards that would be expected of him by his employer.

There is public accountability on this and I'm glad that his name is now public cos it had reached the point where it was bullshit not to say.

I hope he is ok and gets better. But he also can not blame others for choices he has made. He can not say he was unaware that his actions were fine. This is a man who has reported various high profile cases about abuses of power over the years. I don't believe that reading off an autocue means you instantly forget. He is well educated and informed on standards and expectations of people in authority and knows the BBC history.

I hope his wife and kids are ok. I believe his kids are all adults now. But still the youngest not much different in age to some of the people making allegations. I hope they have support.

But no it's really not ok. As I say upthread it's about the safeguarding framework to prevent the very worst incidents and there needs to be consequences for actions on the lower end of that framework for inappropriate behaviour to help prevent worse incidents.

Four allegations of inappropriate conduct from dating websites and at least two from within the BBC now, do not add up to a man who was acting in a way that is ok.

He's been verified as sending abusive expletive laden messages to one of these people.

I'm sure more will come out before the end.

This is a 'dont be a dick' situation even if it's not criminal. That does matter.

Otherwise we say it's ok for inappropriate comments at work and it's ok for 61 year olds to be hitting on 20 year olds when they are in a position of great power. (it's not cool regardless of sex). These would be considered creepy behaviour in other circumstances - and standard safeguarding protocols would clearly define this as inappropriate. It's fair from a moralistic, puritan position. It's industry standard if you will - there shouldn't be a free pass just cos it's Huw Edwards.

toomuchlaundry · 12/07/2023 20:43

DH didn’t know the rules about photos, assumed it was under 16. I knew as have done large amount of safeguarding. DS knew as has been drummed into him at school.

bitnervousaboutthis · 12/07/2023 20:44

So basically this thread is now siding with HE and his mental health, and basically blaming everyone else but him. The press were right to report on it and he only has himself to blame

Some posters spare no thought spared for the people he apparently treated badly / exploited or for the parents. Just because HE's actions didn't meet the appropriate standard for criminal investigation does not mean they were not exploitative.

beguilingeyes · 12/07/2023 20:46

lemmein · 12/07/2023 19:48

Samantha Fox is 57 years old. Attitudes change. Not that I have any love for The Sun, they should've been shut down when the NOTW was!

The NOTW didn't really shut down...they just changed the name to the Sun On Sunday and carried on regardless.
Rupert Murdoch should have been banned from owning UK newspapers IMO. They should have shut down all of his publications. Milly Dowler should have seen to that.

the80sweregreat · 12/07/2023 20:48

A few friends of mine have young teens and had a few situations arise with photo sharing.
It is horrendous.
The internet has a lot to answer for

Blossomtoes · 12/07/2023 20:49

Couldn’t agree more @beguilingeyes. I’d be happy with seeing The Sun shut down though.

beguilingeyes · 12/07/2023 20:54

Lalgarh · 12/07/2023 20:28

Link to statement from The Sun

https://news.sky.com/story/huw-edwards-bbc-presenter-latest-police-teenager-explicit-pictures-12917955?postid=6166292#liveblog-body

"...The Sun has no plans to publish further allegations. We must also re-emphasise that The Sun at no point in our original story alleged criminality and also took the decision neither to name Mr Edwards nor the young person involved in the allegations..."

They so did alledge criminality. They specifically said the person was 17. They lit the touchpaper and stood back.

EmmaEmerald · 12/07/2023 20:56

RedToothBrush "He's been verified as sending abusive expletive laden messages to one of these people. "

no evidence of criminality - so where's the verification of this?

Brumbies · 12/07/2023 20:57

Why are people feeling sorry for HE? He's a married man with 5 kids!!! A Christian to boot.

He's just a dirty old man.

EmmaEmerald · 12/07/2023 20:58

Brumbies · 12/07/2023 20:57

Why are people feeling sorry for HE? He's a married man with 5 kids!!! A Christian to boot.

He's just a dirty old man.

I feel furious that he's committed no crime and been labelled as someone who has committed crimes against children. That is an appalling accusation, hence The Sun are backpedalling.

bitnervousaboutthis · 12/07/2023 21:00

Really concerning some posters seem to think just because it isn't at a criminal standard means it's all ok then!

Blossomtoes · 12/07/2023 21:03

bitnervousaboutthis · 12/07/2023 21:00

Really concerning some posters seem to think just because it isn't at a criminal standard means it's all ok then!

Nobody thinks that. HTH.

bitnervousaboutthis · 12/07/2023 21:04

@Blossomtoes maybe try actually reading the thread before commenting

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