BBC Presenter and yet more allegations

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It would appear that the front page of tomorrow’s The Sun has further allegations about messages with a new 17 year old. Creepy hearts etc

Scrolling through Sky news and seeing front pages of the papers. This appears bottom right on The Sun front page.

Who was it who mentioned three threads ago that the first disclaimer to be trotted out would be 'Mental Health?'

Have I seen elsewhere something about The Script?

I've not participated in any speculation as to who this man was - vigilantism is a dangerous slippery slope - but the above is predictably interesting. It's as if they have a text book to which no one else has access.

NB. Not buying that men's behaviour is the woman's fault. Absolutely not.

She's not a journalist is she? I thought she was a TV producer. And it seems she's speaking on his behalf because he is not able to. I doubt he is in a state to speak much to anyone by the sounds of it.

And breaking his wedding vows, being unfaithful to his wife, putting himself before his own children and their welfare/happiness and generally acting like a arse.

Unlikely. People tend not to walk out on long marriages when their spouse is seriously ill.

Very well documented history of depression for twenty years. Hardly a script.

No, I can understand Jeremy vine's anger to be honest. A few presenters were named on Twitter over the weekend and people on SM are just nasty. It seems some sites are not as moderated as mumsnet is and a lot of it must have been vile
I appreciate the other point of view , but I can understand why he said what he did. Plus he probably isn't friends with him now. I doubt many are.
Edward's wife Vicky probably took the initiative here I bet. It's certainly not her fault at all.
She needs support.

His poor wife. Humiliated, living in a sham of a marriage and at the end she's the one who's had to come out and deal with the fall out. Awful for her and her kids and also the young people involved

That wasnt what I said, but minimising it is part of the problem. As is standing by them, blaming depression etc. If anyone i knew had behaved in such a manner I would not be issuing a statement- would you ?

Gosh Hugh Edwards! I wasn't expecting that.

Jess Phillips MP
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Just coming on here to say that Vicky Flind is by some distance one of the nicest, kindest and most decent women I've had the privilege to work with.

Well, as we know, within all that the parents claimed, the only possible criminal act (by both the younger male and the older male) was if the younger had sent “explicit” photos of himself while he was still 17.
The police HAVE made enquiries with the parents and no doubt asked that specific question.

The lawyers might have asked her to do this.
Or maybe she needed an end to the speculation.
Nobody knows , but she deserves support and I hope she gets it in spades

Regarding the status of his mental health - as I understand it he has spoke. About mental health struggles for many years, so this isn’t exactly a new “script”.

in any event it is not clear if mental health is being blamed for his behaviour (although it isn’t hard to say objectively that it was risky and potentially enormously self destructive). His current mental health may well be entirely linked to the last few days - the absolute collapse of his career, his reputation, possibly his family life. He may well feel all hope for the future is lost so I’m not surprised he is in care and no doubt being carefully watched.

I have a feeling there's more to it, and if he's receiving inpatient treatment for the foreseable he's been sectioned.

As for his wife doing it, I think her words were spit on. There's others hurting right now, not just the mother of the 'victim'. He has children and parents that will be hurting just as much as the 'victim's' mother who ran to the scum sun.

Maybe she loves her husband.
Can you imagine the shock and unbearable pressure that family are going through, and all in the public eye too.
I feel for them all.

That's an issue for them. It's of interest to no one else what individuals do within the privacy of their own families and marriages.

The question is whether or not he's been exploitative. If he's done anything illegal, that's for the CPS and the police to sort; if he's brought his profession into disrepute, it's for his employers to discipline him in accordance with their own framework.

And those are two separate issues. 'What crime has he committed then?', the objection so often (weakly and ignorantly) trotted out in the context of Andrew Windsor, is NOT an out.

Yeah, she's even got her necklace tangled round her microphone. They must have all known each other for donkey's years. Given that she must have known who the allegations are about for days, I wonder if she's upset because she is reading into this about HE having tried to harm himself, or if it's just the shock/awfulness of having to read out this stuff about someone you thought you knew.

How do we know that she is standing by him? Has she specifically said that? Did she specifically blame mental health issues for his actions?

I must have missed that.

A great many people have documented histories of depression and don't engage in alleged reprehensible conduct involving much younger people.

Check out any abuse thread on this very site and I can guarantee an objection of 'is he depressed?' will appear on the first few pages.

It isn't relevant. Depression doesn't make someone do these things.

Statement in full for those who've not seen it:

"In light of the recent reporting regarding the 'BBC Presenter' I am making this statement on behalf of my husband Huw Edwards, after what have been five extremely difficult days for our family.
"I am doing this primarily out of concern for his mental well-being and to protect our children.
"Huw is suffering from serious mental health issues. As is well documented, he has been treated for severe depression in recent years.
"The events of the last few days have greatly worsened matters, he has suffered another serious episode and is now receiving in-patient hospital care where he'll stay for the foreseeable future.
"Once well enough to do so, he intends to respond to the stories that have been published.
"To be clear Huw was first told that there were allegations being made against him last Thursday.
"In the circumstances and given Huw's condition I would like to ask that the privacy of my family and everyone else caught up in these upsetting events is respected.
"I know that Huw is deeply sorry that so many colleagues have been impacted by the recent media speculation. We hope this statement will bring that to an end."

I read the court judgement. The judge dismissed allegations regarding Amber Heard's motivations because it was incompatible with her giving away $7m. The judge was impressed by her doing that. Of course, that turned out to be a lie and she, herself, had never given anything.

When the judge looked at the allegations of assault, he judged that the points to be true because they followed the same pattern of behaviour. But we know from the US trial that some of those allegations were not true. Therefore the judge assumed guilt based on an assumed pattern of behaviour that did not, in fact, take place.

You don't need to be a senior level judge to read his judgement and compare it to the evidence presented at the trial in the US. It was unfortunate for Depp that he was suing The Sun and not Heard because that meant his side could not get full disclosure from Heard herself.

This was about the Sun publishing untruths, they have done it in the past & until they be held accountable for the harm & lies they peddle they do none of us are safe.

@SerafinasGoose - are you saying that depression never plays a part in people seeking out meaningless sexual encounters or engaging in risky and self destructive behaviours?

When you say woman.........