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TV presenter allegations

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JeandeServiette · 08/07/2023 23:54

Could we PLEASE have a thread that stays up?

Meaning don't name anyone, or any programme or ask for initials or hint.

I just would like to discuss how this is likely to unfold.

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artishard · 09/07/2023 23:29

TokyoStories · 09/07/2023 22:58

I agree. None of it is adding up. Not that people whipping themselves and others into a frenzy will care about that, or the damage it will do.

Who knows. Perhaps the BBC personality in question was costing them too much and should have leapt before being pushed? Presumably they aren't someone who has ever spoken out against the BBC, despite being an influential face of the corporation who could potentially have some clout in the public sphere...

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 23:30

Oioicaptain · 09/07/2023 22:17

I don't understand the criticism of the mother's actions here. She is trying to save her child's life here. Someone has taken advantage of her child's age/youth and exploited their vulnerability for their own seedy aims. If the person is indeed the person plastered over the internet, there is a 40+ year age gap. If I were in the mother's position I would do exactly the same! Of course there will be fall out from it, but the mother has far more information than we do and is seeking to save her child from dying. This individual is enabling their habit. They don't care whether that child is an addict or vulnerable or not. He/She is just a commodity to them!

No me neither.

What would any of us do in that situation?

OFC there is a lot we do not know but I don't see how trying to report all this is prima fasciae a bad thing for a parent to do.

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JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 23:37

tunbridgeoutrage · 09/07/2023 22:39

If it was your child that needed safeguarding who would you report to first? a) Police b) employee, or c) The Sun

It's entirely possible that the police wouldn't take a report from a third party, in which case approaching the employer next makes sense.

I wouldn't approach a red top myself but if she didn't want payment (reported, could be true) I can see it possibly being a desperation tactic in your efforts to drag your drug addicted young adult child away from their money supply.

We won't really know what to make of it unless details emerge. Probably better for the young person if they don't, though.

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Sexisthairdressers · 09/07/2023 23:44

I've seen other threads and sites where it's being said that "everyone" knows who the presenter in question is, and that it's just a matter of time till it's out there. Is this really true? I actually have no clue!

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 23:45

There does seem to be a consensus but who knows if it's right?

The photo could be fake.

I don't see how it will stay quiet though so we'll know soon enough.

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Hatari00 · 09/07/2023 23:50

I don’t think the pic on Twitter is true- more likely an AI . It would make sense if social media stop with the speculation and let the story come out from reputable sources/

as for the pic, if this the one everyone is referring to

he looks mad - more like a cut and paste of the head?
the body angle looks strange
and his posterior looks too pert

HRTQueen · 09/07/2023 23:53

It needs to be established if the person has committed a crime on the news it was said this might depend on how old the young adult was when the first photos were requested and taken

even if he hasn’t committed a crime the BBC will I’m sure will let go. What they do need to answer is why he was still presenting and attending BBC celebrations after the allegations were made why wasn’t he suspended when they received the first complaint

It’s the same old story man with authority abuses his power and nothing is done until the issues can’t be ignored

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 23:54

It’s the same old story man with authority abuses his power and nothing is done until the issues can’t be ignored

That's what concerns me.

It actually makes very little difference which presenter it is. What matters is whether the BBC are on the ball.

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 09/07/2023 23:55

So how is that photo supposed to have got into the public domain - mother, police, the Sun?

If it is him I am so disappointed.

Hatari00 · 09/07/2023 23:57

@StarbucksSmarterSister AI can generate pics -

StarbucksSmarterSister · 10/07/2023 00:07

I meant if it were genuine. Someone would have had to leak it.

JeandeServiette · 10/07/2023 00:13

StarbucksSmarterSister · 10/07/2023 00:07

I meant if it were genuine. Someone would have had to leak it.

Yes.

Police and tabloids both leak like sieves when it suits someone or there's £££s involved, though.

Admittedly the normal thing is for the police to leak to the tabloids but who knows?

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SabrinaThwaite · 10/07/2023 00:15

The account that tweeted the photo being discussed has been deleted.

BishopRock · 10/07/2023 00:18

I don't think the photo is real.

However the damage is done.

JeandeServiette · 10/07/2023 00:21

Even if the photo is real, it proves nothing does it?

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Mammamia2023 · 10/07/2023 00:27

The only photo i’ve seen is of an arse with and arm visible showings watch and wedding ring. No face visible so how can people now be saying now we know who it is? Not to mention it could be a fake.

Mogs43 · 10/07/2023 00:27

I am worried about all the speculation online and the harm that it must be doing to everyone involved. It can’t be nice for anyone.

One of the people who is trending, for example, has a long history of depression that they say has, at times left them bedridden. i am not saying that if guilty of any crime they shouldn’t be held accountable, but I do hope all involved are receiving support and kindness. At times some of the speculation online has gone overboard /comments have been vial - these are peoples lives . It’s all very sad.

EasterIssland · 10/07/2023 00:29

Mammamia2023 · 10/07/2023 00:27

The only photo i’ve seen is of an arse with and arm visible showings watch and wedding ring. No face visible so how can people now be saying now we know who it is? Not to mention it could be a fake.

What you’ve seen is a cut of the pic that has been circulating where you could see a face

Mammamia2023 · 10/07/2023 00:37

Ah @EasterIssland thanks, saw it posted a few times but never a face.

Not that it’s nice for anyone going through these accusations but I hope it is him or that’s just really harsh. I’d hate to think someone could be as mean to fake a photo and put it out there. Can’t imagine what everyone accused and their families are going through right now.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 10/07/2023 00:54

I remember at the time of the Frank Bough scandal, I just kept thinking about how humiliating it must be for his poor wife.

ValerieBroad · 10/07/2023 01:11

I feel for the innocent ones that are being tarred with slanderous crap by morons. I feel for the BBC as how is what some scumbag does at home their failure but for sure Labour and others are saying they have failed yet again. I do wish people would accept that until the situation is investigated and deepfakes, photoshop etc are ruled out it is not safe for a suspect to be named. The police dont name until charged so same here please?

sashh · 10/07/2023 01:40

NotTheOtherMother · 09/07/2023 12:05

So how did the The Sun get away with using 16 and 17 year old page 3 models? Is anyone going to prosecute the editors and photographer?

The law changed in 1988. And 1996 and 2003.

Try finding a pic of a 16 year old Sam Fox topless.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/indecent-and-prohibited-images-children

Indecent and Prohibited Images of Children | The Crown Prosecution Service

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/indecent-and-prohibited-images-children

Spopssas · 10/07/2023 01:47

The BBC is, and always has been, a cesspit of abuse and sexual coercion. Senior management are aggressively silent and highly lawyered up. Policies and procedures are meaningless. It's the wild west just as it always has been and young lives have been lost/futures crushed/early promise of a successful media career trashed. This is NOT a new thing. It is amusing that it's now being massaged into some big scandal by an equally morally abhorrent press.

Spopssas · 10/07/2023 01:53

Just to add...it IS a hideous scandal. I am not 'amused' by the story, or by the devastating effect on the alleged victim. The head of BBC investigations is Jeff Brown.

marscepone · 10/07/2023 02:20

I hope this is the end of the licence fee. If you have very little ones, yes I can see why cbeebies is good value for money. But otherwise......

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