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TV presenter allegations

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JeandeServiette · 08/07/2023 23:54

Could we PLEASE have a thread that stays up?

Meaning don't name anyone, or any programme or ask for initials or hint.

I just would like to discuss how this is likely to unfold.

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Savoury · 09/07/2023 13:22

It doesn’t sound like the BBC Board were ever made aware which speaks of corporate malpractice at least. Grievances or whistleblowers are usually dealt with by the head of the Audit Committee or head of Remuneration.
If the above report is true, this goes much deeper than a presenter being at fault. It suggests the BBC haven’t learned from the Saville case.

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 13:24

uncomfortablydumb53 · 09/07/2023 13:16

I heard last night that the story is the news and the news is the story so I have an idea who it is
If I found out my DC was involved in this, I'd make it known too
Possibly the male DC is now in a vulnerable place.
BBC presenter in high regard should be seen to be " clean"
Parallels of PS and ITV

I can't imagine a 20yo who has been posing for grubby pics for strangers since they were 17, in support of a crack cocaine habit is possibly NOT vulnerable. It sounds like a car crash young life.

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NoraBattysCurlers · 09/07/2023 13:24

Inkpotlover · 09/07/2023 13:16

I used to work in the media. I still have friends who do. I know what to believe and what not to, thanks very much.

@Inkpotlover you really are naïve then.

Efacsen · 09/07/2023 13:24

RachelTopliss · 09/07/2023 13:18

Fresh allegations implies there have been allegations in the past. I remember a discussion about a chap a few months ago on here.

'Fresh allegations' could equally mean following the old Savile allegations

booktokbear · 09/07/2023 13:24

Curiouscarla · 09/07/2023 12:48

So what? He is allowed a sex life and preferences. As long as its not Illegal it is not anyone else's business.

I guess different people have different morals.

An outwardly facing, upstanding member of the community with a family, paying a teen for s**ual images is not what I see as acceptable behaviour.

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 13:25

It suggests the BBC haven’t learned from the Saville case.

Which is the real story here.

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Inkpotlover · 09/07/2023 13:26

NoraBattysCurlers · 09/07/2023 13:24

@Inkpotlover you really are naïve then.

God, what is your problem. I'm not naive in the slightest, exactly because I used to work in the media. What's been printed so far about this story is the tip of the iceberg.

Gooniesnecersaydie · 09/07/2023 13:36

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 13:21

No it isn't. Don't make things up.

Oh I think it is. They don't go in for litotes. Quite the reverse.

And OFC because the tabloid sector is so immersed in entertainment and trivia they think we're all equally up to date and invested.

One of my Uni friends used to sub for a red top. I could never understand why he wasted a brain but they all seem to consider it an art form.

Valid point. Could be the case.

I remember the Ulrika Johnsson autobiography thing in the early 2000s and the speculation went wild till Matthew Wright 'let slip' the rumours were it was John Leslie, and despite the fact it ruined JLs career and life, most people were saying "that bloke who was on Blue Peter?"

Nobody was rocked from my memory and as i remember it, most people were disappointed it wasn't someone more well-known and high profile as the speculation was crazy.

But Piers at al possibly do think the public may be rocked by revelations but also, are attention-whores who thrive on clicks and likes.

The fact Rylan Clarke felt the need to say it's not him indicates to me that it's not all that dramatic or surprising and involving exceptionally famous presenters.

Iwasafool · 09/07/2023 13:36

frustratednomad · 09/07/2023 13:09

I don't care what this person does in their private life but I do object with being forced to pay for it due to the bully boy tactics by the BBC.

He got paid for doing his job, what he does with his money is his business as long as it is legal.

Samaritans999 · 09/07/2023 13:48

The fact Rylan Clarke felt the need to say it's not him indicates to me that it's not all that dramatic or surprising and involving exceptionally famous presenters.

its more the fact that papers are using his image on social media every time there is any hint of an update to this story. His name was one of the first to be bandied about despite him universally being hailed as one of the good guys. 2 of the others who have been named are taking legal action.

Making false accusations is serious.

Tanith · 09/07/2023 13:49

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 13:25

It suggests the BBC haven’t learned from the Saville case.

Which is the real story here.

If we closed down every organisation with an employee who's done this, the world would grind to a halt.

At one point, a top university was publishing guidelines for students prostituting themselves to pay for their courses and living expenses.

3BSHKATS · 09/07/2023 13:50

Iwasafool · 09/07/2023 13:36

He got paid for doing his job, what he does with his money is his business as long as it is legal.

Yes, and the point is that it isn’t Legal

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 13:51

If we closed down every organisation with an employee who's done this, the world would grind to a halt.

I don't think anyone came near to suggesting the BBC should be closed down. (Although I know the "defund the BBC" people walk among us.) I do think they have a culture problem.

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Willmafrockfit · 09/07/2023 13:59

it wasnt legal 3 years ago but is ok for the past 2 years

Gooniesnecersaydie · 09/07/2023 14:01

Samaritans999 · 09/07/2023 13:48

The fact Rylan Clarke felt the need to say it's not him indicates to me that it's not all that dramatic or surprising and involving exceptionally famous presenters.

its more the fact that papers are using his image on social media every time there is any hint of an update to this story. His name was one of the first to be bandied about despite him universally being hailed as one of the good guys. 2 of the others who have been named are taking legal action.

Making false accusations is serious.

Agreed.

But I was responding to Piers Morgan et al about how the public would be 'rocked' due to the significance of the individual involved.

And all the MNetters claiming insider knowledge and thinking the public would be shocked.

If Rylan Clarke was ever considered as a significant BBC employee that would 'rock' the public if he was involved in a scandal it suggests to me the actual person involved could very possibly be not particularly famous or well-known in the sense it would shock or rock anyone.

The BBC has all sorts of shows, British Bake off, Masterchef among dozens of programes.

Which doesn’t necessarily mean the presenters of those shows are particularly well known in the wider public and they really aren't part of the national consciousness.

QueefQueen80s · 09/07/2023 14:02

Curiouscarla · 09/07/2023 12:52

@Inkpotlover so because he is a talented professional he is not allowed a sex life conducted in the privacy of his own home.

The moral outrage is the boring bit.

An older man with a preference for teenagers needs outing. Disgusting

Doesn't matter if they're over 18 or thought were older

Willmafrockfit · 09/07/2023 14:07

An older man with a preference for teenagers needs outing. Disgusting

but common since prostitution was invented

Sumthingsweet · 09/07/2023 14:08

Was Mr blobby

Goldfoot · 09/07/2023 14:08

Gooniesnecersaydie · 09/07/2023 14:01

Agreed.

But I was responding to Piers Morgan et al about how the public would be 'rocked' due to the significance of the individual involved.

And all the MNetters claiming insider knowledge and thinking the public would be shocked.

If Rylan Clarke was ever considered as a significant BBC employee that would 'rock' the public if he was involved in a scandal it suggests to me the actual person involved could very possibly be not particularly famous or well-known in the sense it would shock or rock anyone.

The BBC has all sorts of shows, British Bake off, Masterchef among dozens of programes.

Which doesn’t necessarily mean the presenters of those shows are particularly well known in the wider public and they really aren't part of the national consciousness.

I'd be rocked if it was Rylan (which it's not). He seems genuinely decent and warm, one of a very few high profile people I'd say that about.

Of the other names that have been mentioned there's only one I'd be quite surprised about. (Not the newsreader).

3BSHKATS · 09/07/2023 14:09

Tanith · 09/07/2023 13:49

If we closed down every organisation with an employee who's done this, the world would grind to a halt.

At one point, a top university was publishing guidelines for students prostituting themselves to pay for their courses and living expenses.

Oh really ? I thought it wasnt all men

RegimentalSturgeon · 09/07/2023 14:09

Doesn't matter if they're over 18

Yes it does, @QueefQueen80s, because no offence would be involved. You might not approve, but that is neither here nor there.

QueefQueen80s · 09/07/2023 14:11

Willmafrockfit · 09/07/2023 14:07

An older man with a preference for teenagers needs outing. Disgusting

but common since prostitution was invented

Yep. 🤢

QueefQueen80s · 09/07/2023 14:12

RegimentalSturgeon · 09/07/2023 14:09

Doesn't matter if they're over 18

Yes it does, @QueefQueen80s, because no offence would be involved. You might not approve, but that is neither here nor there.

I know it's legal. But I just mean even over 18s shouldn't even be a consideration to older men. I look at men that age and see kids..

Goldfoot · 09/07/2023 14:12

RegimentalSturgeon · 09/07/2023 14:09

Doesn't matter if they're over 18

Yes it does, @QueefQueen80s, because no offence would be involved. You might not approve, but that is neither here nor there.

I don't know, I think a high profile person paid from the public purse would be in a fair amount to stook if he'd been paying anyone for dodgy images. Obviously he couldn't be prosecuted if it not illegal, but I think it would still be career limiting, especially if it was known the money was going to a vulnerable person to feed an addiction.

Tanith · 09/07/2023 14:13

3BSHKATS · 09/07/2023 14:09

Oh really ? I thought it wasnt all men

Struggling to see the relevance of your remark.

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