Police asking for an apology from ds

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DS (17) got into a scuffle at the weekend with a friend. Each hit each other once, no physical harm done. It was a stupid argument over a girl and we’ve said how disappointed we are and emphasised what harm for both of them it could have led to. He is feeling really bad about it, he has been really struggling with his mental health anyway. He has apologised to the friend and friend has accepted. The police rang last night and said they wanted to speak to DS (they were at the scene when it happened). The police have said that he will not be cautioned but that they want him to sign an apology. They said this apology would be seen on future enhanced CRB checks. He wants to train as a teacher so I’m gutted this is the case. We’re all for the police coming to talk to him but this is the first time he has ever been in any trouble ever. I’ve tried to Google how long this would stay on a crb but can’t find anything.

Ok never met one as far as he’s aware!! Is that better?? He is a special as stated so most likely doesn’t meet that many as regular officers. Generally just his team.

I have already said to the poster who has accused my DH of all sorts, this policeman might be acting inappropriately- but she insists that all police are not to be trusted (even though they are investigating her claims) apparently I now know the policeman in question. Utterly deluded!!!

@OMG12

I have already said to the poster who has accused my DH of all sorts, this policeman might be acting inappropriately- but she insists that all police are not to be trusted (even though they are investigating her claims) apparently I now know the policeman in question. Utterly deluded!!!

Nobody has actually said you must 'know the policeman in question', you're twisting general statements about how he 'could be' one who ignores or exhibits bad behaviour into specific accusations.

You also accuse other posters of 'screeching' (a horribly misogynist description IMO as I've never heard men accused of it when they have robust opinions) when you're the poster getting irate, defensive and angry on the thread.

Good police officers are painfully aware of the deep flaws in the system. They are angry with their peers who make the force look bad and with their senior officers who have excused, covered up or otherwise failed to address the systemic issues in the force.

Your posts do nothing to help the public perception of police officers at all.

From the poster who has slagged of me and my DH “I'm almost half convinced you know the officer and circumstances” so yes someone has said I know the police officer - if you can’t be bothered to read my posts why bother?

No it's not OK, it doesn't make it better, it makes it worse, much worse. Of course he's come across dodgy police officers, everyone has come across someone dodgy at work, that's the society we live in, some people aren't good. He can't possibly say he's never met one, if he's never noticed, it's because it's no normalised no one takes note or does anything and that's the problem.

Also, how can you possibly know so much about what is confidential work? If he's been sharing with you, that in itself is all wrong.

@OMG12

From the poster who has slagged of me and my DH “I'm almost half convinced you know the officer and circumstances” so yes someone has said I know the police officer - if you can’t be bothered to read my posts why bother?

I did read it.

I read it as a completely throwaway sarcastic remark not an actual accusation about your actual husband... that's how most people would read it I think.

People aren't always being literal.

And as I said in my previous post, you need to work on your language as accusing women of 'screeching' when they're simply sharing their opinions is laden in misogyny.

And also a very odd thing to say when you've been the most defensive and angry poster on the thread while managing to merail it completely.

Exactly this

@OMG12 will happily lie and make up utter crap about my DH and me and what happened in our situation which has left me with no trust in the police, yet is angry when called out on it or a suggestion is made that they are aware of the case with my DH

It's fine for them but no one else. If anyone sounds "screeching" to use their phrase, it's not me.

And yes it smacks of "hysterical women" finger pointing and misogyny.

I don't think you (and by default your DH) OMG12 are coming off as the wonderful face of modern policing. Quite the opposite in fact

@OMG12 why must you every thread about the police into sycophantic fan-girling?

It tends to throw the threads off track and makes you appear quite dismissive of those who don't share your bling views.

*Blind views

The thing is, we know there is a problem with some police officers being corrupt and yes, there are citizens that cause issues too. But only one side has disproportionate power over the other. That’s why it matters and why we need to be able to talk about it without getting shouted down.

I too have friends that are police officers and I greatly admire them for what they do. It doesn’t mean we can’t talk about those that cause issues. If anything it makes it even more pressing that the situation improves. Corrupt police officers endanger good police officers. Not citizens who talk about it. People that say there isn’t a corruption issue are part of the issue itself.

Also - the officers I’m aware of would be the first to say to not sign anything and do not speak without legal representation.

The OP left pages ago!

I guess the conversation moved on, as it does. I don’t blame her for leaving though.