MISSING TITAN SUB - THREAD 5

[tortoishelll]

Thread 5 - a continuation.

My heart aches for those poor men and their families. 💔😔

Literally asked and answered a few posts above yours. (Also many times on the thread/s but hey)

@mrsnjw

Metal is denser than flesh. It survives, but is still affected. One of the bits of information on a link previously posted said that "even steel shrinks". However because it is a dense material it can withstand the pressure better and is less affected. If not, they wouldn't be able to go to any great depths in any sort of craft.

Our bodies are something like 70% water, and are very fragile - it takes very little to completely annihilate us.

Your ignorance is astounding but as with anything you're entitled to your opinion and no point trying to change it as you evidently aren't keen to listen. I don't doth my cap to them but working in the field I do I understand the valuable financial people like these make to people passionate about these things. It's a (very) deep sea dive, looking at titanic is merely a way to attract people to want to invest in it and yes there's a lot to be learnt from pushing these boundaries. I agree everest is bad because the local guides often die but they take the jobs because they need the money- that's extremely exploitative. You might not see the value in Elon investing in space research, but you benefit from things humans have done and are doing everyday in space so I'm not sure you quite grasp why these investments in otherwise largely underfunded areas are important.

@Emotionalsupportviper thank you

She does have a strange affect, but I am reluctant to criticise anyone experiencing such shock and grief - people respond in different ways. She may be being disingenuous, but she may equally just be managing to hold things together, and still be in a state of shock.

I know that it has been reported that she and her brother weren't on good terms, but that doesn't mean that she won't be knocked sideways by his dreadful death, and of course, the death of her nephew.

I love the hypocrisy though that everyone is equal- except if you're rich then you're fair game for criticism.

You're welcome.

It's easy to miss information in a busy, fast-moving thread like this one. never worry about asking.

Yeah I never said everyone was equal. Fuck the rich. No one gets rick through not fucking people over at some point or creating inequality.

I think people are just trying to justify their morbid fascination with this case by going on about how sad they are.

if you're rich then you're fair game for criticism. Err, yeah 🙄

Aww, the poor rich people, everyone's so mean to them. 😥

His aunt was just on Sky News stating that he didn’t want to go and that it was a Father’s Day present for his dad. This makes it even more heartbreaking.

And right on cue, as we reach the halfway point for the thread the mudslinging between posters (most of which is unrelated to any actual facts) ignites yet again. We're at least consistent.

🙄

And other posters have actually spent time in submarines doing research. Think those were the types off post referred to.

Ditto Elon Musk's Mars mission or Everest tourists causing harm to the environment and local people

There have been tons letters to Martian Daily by local people disgruntled by Elon Musk. The issues the local community face were even acknowledged by Breakfast on Mars the other day, Extraterrestrial Channel 2.

Well, that's not surprising, is it?
There's literally nothing else to say now.
The unfortunate people are dead.

Rich people or not, they're still dead.

But I do not approve of people praising the rich, I must admit. Maybe that's because I've never been rich? I don't know. I do know that there have been times in my life when there has been nothing to eat in my food cupboards. Not nowadays but when the children were younger.

So I am not keen on rich people.
But I am sorry that this particular group of rich people died because their families will be grieving.

And other posters have actually spent time in submarines doing research. Think those were the types of post referred to.

Those were the sorts of posts referred to. Correct.

And the sensible general comments. Some sifting through rubbish, and repetition, as you'd expect on a general thread, though MNHQ are deleting a lot of that too it would appear.

So you feel overwhelming grief and sadness for these men do you? How about every other person who dies needlessly every day? If so, how do you actually function?

Words like devastated, fuming, livid etc. are completely overused these days.

It’s absolutely fine to say only their loved ones should find this “devastating”.

It’s also fine to point out the ridiculous amount of resources spent searching for them.

It seems the aunt spoke out yesterday about her nephew being 'terrified' and has maybe released this video as a more measured response. I kind of appreciate her sentiment that her brother loved the Titanic and is now a part of its legend.

It's hard to believe that just yesterday, many of us believed the men could still be hunched together, hanging onto their last breaths after five days in that tiny capsule, 2½ miles under the sea. I hope the same questions will still be asked, in terms of safety, supplies and the inhumane expectations to even spend 8 hours bolted in there.

The British Schools Exploration Society is not an organisation to go and 'gawk at polar bears', it is designed to allow young people from all backgrounds to go to these extreme environments. Another boy who was badly injured on that trip, was an ordinary lad from Cornwall.

This develops them on a personal level, and also offers them the experience necessary to maybe work in these environments in future, doing important scientific and conservation work. Work opportunities which would otherwise only be available to people with rich daddies who can buy them this experience.

None of this can be compared with the billionaires' Titanic or space trips in any way shape or form.

At least someone with common sense . I feel for the loss of life , mostly the young boy who seems to have been bullied by his dad to go . But there is so much tragedy in the world . This are 5 millionaires who probably enjoyed more than any of us here ( bar the por lad who really was young ) and who put themselves in that position . There are thousands of babies dying every day from starvation and lack of clean water , as an example , where is the OP heartbreaking for them ? Where is the outcry ?

And other posters don't even try to hide their gloating that five people died because two of them were rich.

@Fisharejumping
there's a proverb (Japanese?) "may you live a boring life"

My old priest used to ask us to pray for those afflicted with great wealth. That always made me stop and think.

Afflicted…

I've always thought it's not true to say you can never be too thin or too rich.

Too rich is where you can't tell if people want to be your friend because of you or because of your many houses/yacht/vast wealth or at the point where your family and children are at risk of kidnap for randsom.

That's no way to live.

It's much better to be very well off - so you don't want for anything - but not super-rich so that you can afford a £250k death trip.

In this situation the onus is on you to 'have a google' before making baseless assertions.

Thread 5 is a dumpster fire.