MISSING TITAN SUB - THREAD 5

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Thread 5 - a continuation.

My heart aches for those poor men and their families. 💔😔

It's always the same on these general threads. There are knowledgeable, measured, posts and posters but some rubbish to sift through as well @kittensinthekitchen

Sorry I cannot find the original post to quote but

@Nesbi

Absolutely spot on 👏👏

That's the Internet for you. I expect it will get worse now the news will slow down as is always the way

Yes, so many of these (tragic), preventable incidents are caused because people who have too much money start to believe they’re invincible, that they are somehow of a different human set than the rest of us. Elon Musk’s ridiculous endeavours to go to Mars is one of the most self indulgent vanity projects and yet there will still be people with more money than sense queuing up to get a place on the rocket. Why doesn’t he focus his time and fortune on the actual planet he’s living on! I hope this will be the end of touristy type trips to the Titanic especially in a vessel that looks like it was cobbled together by a primary school junk art project.

Yes, I absolutely should acknowledge the genuine, intelligent and educated posts from some. I've learned a bit from reading these threads, and want to thank those posters for sharing their knowledge

Agree with this 100%. Humanity needs savings from itself.

Yes, I absolutely should acknowledge the genuine, intelligent and educated posts from some. I've learned a bit from reading these threads, and want to thank those posters for sharing their knowledge

Some posters spend 10 minutes googling, write it on here and you think they actually know what they’re talking about.

I don't want to derail but completely agree @Marteenie. My partner taught the boy who was killed by a polar bear (not when he was at Eton) and it happened on my wedding day - many guests were naturally very upset.

His father is a spinal surgeon specialist. His parents have founded a charity called 'Horatio's Garden'. In the intervening years it has built 8 gardens on NHS hospital sites all over the country for those suffering from spinal injury. Please don't post in ignorance - you never know who is reading.

So, when a young man is killed by a shark in the sea, the general consensus here is 'play stupid games, etc.' but when rich, older men take a massive risk in the ocean it's a tragedy...

Rush speaks of this warning ‘cracking’ sound when hull/sub compromised, but what’s the point? You can’r surface in time.

I'm struggling to understand his 'logic'. Someone with more knowledge correct me if I'm wrong, but if something had cracked on the sub, like the window for example, then wouldn't the people on board have been wiped from existence less than a second later?

They'd be dead before their brain could even register it, so why the hell was he relying on 'cracking sounds' as warnings when you're fucked the instant that cracking happens?

Some don't even do that - they just jump in with both feet and post something inane that has already been said multiple times and more clearly and concisely.

Seriously. I remember the poster who claimed that her husband 'knew' that sleeping tablets are 'a thing' in these situations, with another poster (possibly a sock puppet) agreeing with her.

There are many factors as to why a 19 year old could be pressured or influenced or taken advantage of due to a power differential with an older adult, especially when that adult is a parent and when there could be cultural factors as play regarding parent-adult child dynamics. Displeasing your father, saying no to your father, dishonouring your father's wishes etc can all lead to negative consequences for an adult child who is seen as being disrespectful by the culture.

This is all crass and baseless speculation. What an awful post.

Of course it's a tragedy... people died, people with loved ones and families, a woman has lost a husband and a 19 year old son

Thank you for sharing, I hadn't heard of Horatio's Garden but have just looked them up and donated- what a beautiful cause and a wonderful legacy.

“I still stand by the fact that the search was so extensive because an S&R at this depth is highly unusual and callously perhaps it's excellent training for crews.”

I see nothing wrong in making practical training use of a necessary search.

Oh for goodness sake.

It's crammed with articles because people are interested in this. The news channels are just giving people what they want - there's demand for content and they're providing it. That's the business model - provide content people will click on or watch, get the eyeballs on your content, reep the advertising £££.

This whole idea that reported news is manipulated to "distract" us is such overblown conspiracy nonsense.

Absolutely governments have taken advantage of busy news agendas to try to sneak out announcements they don't want a lot of publicity on (if anyone remembers the scandal around 9/11 being a "good day to bury bad news"). But media organisations are quite wise to these games...they're trying to find the stuff that governments are attempting to "bury", they're not working in cahoots to bury it.

The idea that events like this are actually themselves being manipulated to provide a "distraction" is just tosh.

I was on your side, in response to who you quoted! My bad 😂 it's very tinfoil hat isn't it!

there's a proverb (Japanese?) "may you live a boring life"

My old priest used to ask us to pray for those afflicted with great wealth. That always made me stop and think.

Afflicted…

So do you

Redic??

I don't think the aunt should have released this information. The boy might not have confided this to his mother-and if not it will tear her to pieces hearing it now.

I’m not sure if this is even the right place to post this now since this thread seems to be mostly people sniping at one another, but here is an interesting article about the first dive to the Challenger Deep in 1960, during which the viewing port cracked

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2020/january/first-deepest-dive

@Marteenie Thank you. For every crass post there is always someone who restores your faith in human nature. I'll bow out now - don't wish to derail.

100%! Thank you for sharing @Marteenie and @Pebble21uk

Quote from BBC:

According to dive expert David Mearns, the debris includes "a landing frame and a rear cover from the submersible"

As a complete lay person, can someone explain why there would be some debris remaining when everything seems to suggest an implosion would have completely obliterated everything?