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MISSING TITAN SUB - THREAD 5

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tortoishelll · 22/06/2023 21:31

Thread 5 - a continuation.

My heart aches for those poor men and their families. 💔😔

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whumpthereitis · 23/06/2023 07:42

Implosion is preferable to the alternative tbh. At least it was quick.

I knew what SirChenjins meant, but I’ve decided I prefer to believe that her uncle is in fact either Methuselah, or the the Count of Saint Germain (who switched his field of scientific study from alchemy to marine biology).

Jobinterviewhelpme · 23/06/2023 07:45

What I don't understand is if it imploded it would have shattered into a million pieces as shown on that animation, how have they been able to find specific bits of it?

sashh · 23/06/2023 07:48

cakeorwine · 23/06/2023 07:36

People talking about the ethics of seeing the Titanic.

I've done scuba diving in the past and have dived on WW1 and WW2 wrecks. I have no doubt that people died on them but they aren't designated as mass graves.

Is that unethical?

I think the difference is that the majority of passengers and crew of the Titanic died on the surface because the sea was freezing.

A few days later their bodies were pulled out, some to be taken to Canada for burial but most bodies were wrapped in sheets, weighted and buried at sea.

milkyaqua · 23/06/2023 07:49

What has made me sadder is learning they detected the anomaly thought to be the Titan's implosion on Monday. So they were trapped down there to some degree, and without comms, for some amount of time. Awful for all concerned.

CrunchyCarrot · 23/06/2023 07:50

Jobinterviewhelpme · 23/06/2023 07:45

What I don't understand is if it imploded it would have shattered into a million pieces as shown on that animation, how have they been able to find specific bits of it?

Some parts were not inside the pressurised capsule - for example the landing gear underneath and the tail fin area. They would just come off when the central capsule imploded.

Simplestead · 23/06/2023 07:50

milkyaqua · 23/06/2023 07:49

What has made me sadder is learning they detected the anomaly thought to be the Titan's implosion on Monday. So they were trapped down there to some degree, and without comms, for some amount of time. Awful for all concerned.

Totally incorrect

Goggin57 · 23/06/2023 07:50

SkyAboveSoBlue · 23/06/2023 02:20

there was an American Tarot reader, a young man on you tube who a couple of days ago said ''Someone as soon as they got in the water freaked out....I can see one person freaking out..one person panicked..and it's almost immediate''

Oh ffs. Enough now. Some fucking YouTube tarot reader indeed! What is wrong with you?

Agreed. What is wrong with people?

milkyaqua · 23/06/2023 07:52

Simplestead · 23/06/2023 07:50

Totally incorrect

How so? The different time zones this is all reported in make it hard to grasp, but I read the US navy detected an anomaly on Monday, and the Titan went missing on Sunday morning.

Simplestead · 23/06/2023 07:52

@milkyaqua

The US Navy detected sounds "consistent with an implosion" shortly after OceanGate's Titan submersible lost contact, a navy official has said.

TrueScrumptious · 23/06/2023 07:53

milkyaqua · 23/06/2023 07:49

What has made me sadder is learning they detected the anomaly thought to be the Titan's implosion on Monday. So they were trapped down there to some degree, and without comms, for some amount of time. Awful for all concerned.

Eh? No, they weren’t at all. It was immediate, less than a fraction of a second.

notimagain · 23/06/2023 07:53

milkyaqua · 23/06/2023 07:49

What has made me sadder is learning they detected the anomaly thought to be the Titan's implosion on Monday. So they were trapped down there to some degree, and without comms, for some amount of time. Awful for all concerned.

Most reputable sources are saying the observed acoustic anomaly happened at pretty much the same time the sub stopped communicating...

milkyaqua · 23/06/2023 07:58

Simplestead · 23/06/2023 07:52

@milkyaqua

The US Navy detected sounds "consistent with an implosion" shortly after OceanGate's Titan submersible lost contact, a navy official has said.

Good. I have scanned the page that reported they heard the anomaly on Monday and they have removed that timeframe. I think it was a reporter confused by timezones.

ApplesInTheSunshine · 23/06/2023 07:59

milkyaqua · 23/06/2023 07:49

What has made me sadder is learning they detected the anomaly thought to be the Titan's implosion on Monday. So they were trapped down there to some degree, and without comms, for some amount of time. Awful for all concerned.

No, they weren’t trapped. The implosion will have meant they died instantly and wouldn’t have had a clue what was happening.

milkyaqua · 23/06/2023 08:00

TrueScrumptious · 23/06/2023 07:53

Eh? No, they weren’t at all. It was immediate, less than a fraction of a second.

Yes, I understand how sub implosions occur, and that is merciful in terms of their awareness of suffering - it was a news report that mentioned Monday, and it has now been ammended/removed as the time of occurrence.

Pootle40 · 23/06/2023 08:01

Trixiefirecracker · 22/06/2023 22:26

I don’t know, stuff implodes and stuff explodes. Look at Challenger shuttle. It just disintegrated. Sometimes technology fails. I think it was that simple. Terrible and tragic but just a terrible failure of the technology.

Although sadly and not widely reported at the time on Challenger was the crew capsule was intact and fell to the ocean floor at very high speed.

Simplestead · 23/06/2023 08:04

Pootle40 · 23/06/2023 08:01

Although sadly and not widely reported at the time on Challenger was the crew capsule was intact and fell to the ocean floor at very high speed.

Yes. Awful.

tortoishelll · 23/06/2023 08:07

Gosh, so if fell to the floor before imploding! That's horrific. They'd have known they were falling, I imagine.

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Emotionalsupportviper · 23/06/2023 08:07

mayorofcasterbridge · 22/06/2023 21:56

I'm probably more angry than anything - the expense and effort that has gone into attempting to save their sorry asses (bar the 19 year old) is ridiculous. I hope their estate is paying for all of that - them and their stupid vanity project!!

If I were that boy's mother, my grief for my husband would be wiped out by my sheer rage that he had effectively killed my beautiful child.

Irrational, maybe - but I don't think I could forgive this.

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/06/2023 08:10

Bouledeneige · 22/06/2023 22:06

Brutal explanation of the impact of an implosion on the human body. Don't read if you're squeamish.

twitter.com/k4r4_/status/1671963333916782594?s=46&t=kY9GRzhvF1KxVluu7yR-TA

Very interesting - thank you.

Brrrrrrrrrrrr · 23/06/2023 08:14

Sky News website is still crammed full of articles about this right now, the cynic in me is thinking this tragedy has been dragged out to distract us especially considering the Us Navy knew pretty much that an implosion had happened.

The question is…distract us from what? 🧐

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/06/2023 08:15

L13422 · 22/06/2023 22:15

Why do you keep pointing out that people are white or not white specifically? Notice no one else in any of these threads have spoke like that. And btw two of the men on the Titan were Pakistani British.

Indeed.

They are people.

Would anyone be making any comments about someone being blond, having blue eyes, being overweight, whatever? If appearance isn't relevant to the discussion, there's no need to mention it.

Florissante · 23/06/2023 08:19

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/06/2023 08:15

Indeed.

They are people.

Would anyone be making any comments about someone being blond, having blue eyes, being overweight, whatever? If appearance isn't relevant to the discussion, there's no need to mention it.

Because it's virtual signalling, the only value that some posters are capable of.

pickledandpuzzled · 23/06/2023 08:19

The opportunity to demonstrate superiority, on a thread that has generally been very respectful. The main distasteful interludes have been from the scolders popping in.
The opening of thread 4 was an unfortunate response to the drive by scoldings.

Nesbi · 23/06/2023 08:19

I find the infantilisation of the 19 year old really odd. Over 11,000 of America’s dead soldiers in Vietnam were 19 years or younger (average age of dead soldiers was 23).

It is young, and it is a tragedy, but he was not a child. He was the age at which a lot of young men find they are full of testosterone and bravado and willingness to take risks.

Some people here almost seem to be want it to be true that he was “terrified” or that his father made him do it. I think it is unlikely that a terrified young man would have been allowed in the sub as he would have been perceived as a danger to everyone else on there.

Countless 19 year old young men have died through misadventure, and countless more will continue to do so. In that sense this young man’s death is tragic but sadly not that unusual.

notimagain · 23/06/2023 08:23

Brrrrrrrrrrrr · 23/06/2023 08:14

Sky News website is still crammed full of articles about this right now, the cynic in me is thinking this tragedy has been dragged out to distract us especially considering the Us Navy knew pretty much that an implosion had happened.

The question is…distract us from what? 🧐

The US Navy didn’t “know.”

It seems they detected a sound but they won’t have turned around to the Coastguard (USCG) and said “it’s definitely the submersible so don’t bother rushing and searching”, chance are the USCG would have said oh, thanks and factored the info into the continuing search.

The USCG themselves were issuing fairly bare bones/objective statements so therewas plenty of room left in the news cycle for other stories.

You’ll have to ask the media about why they chose to cover the story in the way they did.

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