Missing Titan Sub! Thread 4

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As thread 3 is filling up here is a new one. For the benefit of those just joining the conversation;

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Yes we know they're billionaires
We can discuss things that are horrifying and ghoulish, thanks for your opinion.
Migrant boats are sad too

As you were 😁

This is going to sound really silly but it makes me even more sad to think that they never got close enough to even see the Titanic before they died. So close but not close enough. I hope they had no idea of what was about to happen and it was over in an instant for them.

US coastguard has confirmed all have died so, so heartbreaking.

I don't think there's anything to discuss now.

It's as clear as can be, there won't be anything new for a while.

The news we all knew was coming but still hoped against hope for a happy ending.

I am glad that it was quick, and that there was no suffering. May they rest in peace, thoughts with their families and the rescue workers that have worked tirelessly to find them.

It was, they had no chance of even realising they’re going to die.

Nobody knows that at this stage. It's ALL speculation until a lot more stuff has been done.

Like with the Kursk, these investigators will make it their mission to get every last gram of debris up and a full investigation.

I'm glad the family have definite closure, rest in peace to them all and thoughts with the families.

My hope for those 5 souls is that they all knew the risks involved in this expedition and were willing to take them in the name of adventure and passion for exploration, and that their deaths were quick. I also hope this brings some small comfort to their families, especially the mother of the young boy.

The best outcome now would be that their lives are not in vain and this catastrophe is used to underpin new research methods that allow humans to explore the oceans safely and respectfully.

Thank you to all the intelligent people who have contributed to this thread, I have learnt so much.

They pretty much spelled it out @HyperionWarbonnet

Weren't you listening

This is so very sad. The smallest of comforts in that at least they weren’t still alive all this time and losing hope.

That was an excellent press conference and the fact they said it would be the last one should mean that media speculation ends. You would hope so at least.

For anyone TL:DR… likely there was an implosion at the point of comms failure (when the submersible lost touch with the surface vessel) so they did not reach the Titanic. Implosion would have resulted in immediate death for all on board, no bodies to speak of, horrible news but much less horrific than surviving for days and running out of air. Five major pieces of debris found, consistent with a catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber. Teams continue to investigate the area but will start be wound down within the next 24 hours. Agencies are working together to establish a more solid timeline from the information they have. But no further press conferences. The crew has perished.

Excuse my French but it increasing looks like the banging story, certainly the idea it was a distress message, was a load of bollocks.

It seems to have started with a story in Rolling stone who claimed they had seen an e-mail from Us officials a (?) Homeland, the rumour grew legs and off it ran.

And yes, I thought the press conference was well handled.

I wondered if the sound of the implosion would still be travelling around the world? Of there's multiple devices around the world that pick it up could the time it happened be calculated?
Sorry if that's a stupid question

Very very sad

The debris was found pretty much immediately below the point where last contact was.

The implosion wasn't heard after the arrival of the rescuers.

It happened where they were last heard from, and before anyone started looking.

It's pretty clear.

Yes.

It is a sad ending.

Some small consolation maybe in the thought that one second they were all fine, son and dad were together, all expecting to shortly see the Titanic; the next second they were gone. With luck, no suffering, no panic, no pain.

Good summary for everyone TLDR!!

Read that if nothing else!

The Titanic never reached New York
The Titan never reached the Titanic

Both because of safety issues that should have been paramount in such an inhospitable environment.

Very sad.

My first thought in reading the outcome was relief. The idea of being trapped and suffering would have been so deeply traumatic for families and haunted them forever. If it were my own family I would be grateful that it was instant and they probably never knew. The chance of recovery wasn’t likely, and the alternative was stomach churningly horrific with suffering
I hope it has given some peace to their families in that it’s not the worst case outcome. Hopefully the media gives them space to grieve in peace. My thoughts are with them

Yes that was my take too

Exactly. I was in the Falklands for the ARA San Juan, it was a really tough time because regardless of why it was there or past troubles, no one wanted to think of what it meant for the men onboard. Even now, the answers aren’t clear - that’s part obfuscation by the Argentine Government but the reality is that the fleet was poorly maintained… exactly like the Kursk in all honesty.

Also my other thought was if it happened in the column they weren't obviously at the seabed so the pressure wasn't so high so would the implosion have been as fast as if it was on the seabed?

Thanks for explaining that. So the wreckage of the hull does probably exist as one crushed lump, it’s just a question of finding it?

RIP