Missing Titan Sub! Thread 4

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As thread 3 is filling up here is a new one. For the benefit of those just joining the conversation;

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Yes we know they're billionaires
We can discuss things that are horrifying and ghoulish, thanks for your opinion.
Migrant boats are sad too

As you were 😁

How long would any debris take to reach the surface at that distance away from where it should have been , given the currents etc .

3800m down and 480m or so away .

THIS.

I'm almost relieved they didn't suffer and slowly die trapped, it would have been an explosion and over in an instant.

I believed the reports that Nasa and Universities were involved in creating the hull, so I was thinking the thing couldn't have imploded , that's all coming out as complete bullshit now, Nasa and the University involved saying they had nowt to do with the design

My partner builds things for the MOD and there is a reason subs are usually spherical, to distribute pressure equally. If the sub was vulnerable to imploding it makes sense for it to have happened in the way down, as the water pressure increased and when they lost communication. Hopefully this will be a comfort to the families and friends.
Outrageous that they paid so much money to get into that thing. Rest in peace.

Could sub have collided with titanic, or imploded above and remnants fallen to the area?

As awful as this is, i hope those left behind find some comfort that their loved ones would not have suffered.

The alternative of not being found in time would have been unbearable.

Sadly, it WAS imaginable. They knew of the risk and took it anyway. Totally self-indulgent folly. Their poor families

I doubt it. They'd have been crushed. I think the term was at that depth it would be like two elephants balancing on your thumbnail.

Answer- 16,00 feet of the bow. Not nears any debris. Not connected to bumping the titanic

Consistent with implosion in the water column. Position in line with where it was lost.

Too early to tell when it happened.

I think from what I can gather it’s the bits from underneath rather than the shuttle part the men were in

So how have they found parts of the sub?

Why don't they raise a hand and get picked instead of all the men shouting louder and louder

No sound of it detected so....

(Implies happened before they started listening).

Next phase- thoughts are with the families, helping them understand what happened.

They'll continue investigating the debris field and the how, why and when of it.

Sounds like they were on the ends of it and external to it so basically pinged off and scattered when the main hub imploded.

Based on what the expert said, the titanium ends of the pressure hull were found, which suggests the carbon fibre midsection is what collapsed. There have been posts in this thread questioning the use of carbon fibre in the way it was used on Titan.

The debris wouldn't rise to the surface in a straight line though would it , with the currents and stuff

The two ends have been found. The centre part has been crushed

Metal/ carbon fibre is very different to a soft human body (😔)

But wouldn't that have all been crushed too, even if it seperated? I'm thinking if it was an explosion there'd be lots of tiny pieces and dust, wouldn't an implosion cause the same? Or is it implied the chamber inside imploded but the other parts remained intact? I still can't understand how anything would remain intact once broken up.

@topnoddy

Fall, not rise

@Hungrycaterpillarsmummy I heard that too on the radio on the way home but I just can't seem to get my head around it, maybe because it's outside the realms of my normality

There will be failure lines - it sounds like the front hemisphere, the back hemisphere, the tail cone and one or two other bits were fairly intact.

Just paraphrasing what they are saying

From the press conference it sounds like

• they will continue the recovery mission
• it was an implosion while in water column (on the way down/when they lost contact)
• they found both sides of the pressure hold so the inside chamber was in two pieces

It is just utterly insane that this company were genuinely selling places on this thing with a bolted shut door and play station remote to control it 😔 Not to go a little jaunt at the surface off the beach in Spain, literally in the middle of nowhere 2 miles down. It’s actually unbelievable that this thing has been down there before without some sort of major issue

How come this titanium was floating on the surface I wonder