Missing Titan Sub! Thread 4

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As thread 3 is filling up here is a new one. For the benefit of those just joining the conversation;

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Yes we know they're billionaires
We can discuss things that are horrifying and ghoulish, thanks for your opinion.
Migrant boats are sad too

As you were 😁

Always the most likely outcome unfortunately and if it did implode actually a better alternative to lingering for days until oxygen ran out.

Utter disgrace oceangate been allowed to operate in the first place I'm sure serious questions to be answered.

pieces of the titanic are still intact eg the propellor. Eroding, but not destroyed by the pressure.

Jelly the inner parts are different material.

Imagine stamping on a smarties tube and the lid pops off.

How can it implode and yet the debris be described as though its whole parts??

The pressure hull would implode. The rear section and exterior bits and pieces are wet and at the same pressure as the sea so would be more likely to stay in one piece.

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X box remote not that it makes a difference. It really is very sad.

I just can't stop thinking about the poor boy on the sub. I know 19 is technically an adult but barely so. I feel it deep in my heart for his poor mother and the only blessing is that it looks like it happened so quickly that they wouldn't have known what was happening. The thought of them all trapped with the world looking for them was abhorrent.

@topnoddy not floating!!

It's found on the sea bed

I guess this makes sense, but if there was no counter pressure on these parts I don't understand how they wouldn't have been crushed in the force of an inplosion too. At least the chamber had counter balances.

Sorry, not being argumentative!

Makes sense now !

Question about regulation will be considered later. We're documenting the scene.

Q about
Banging noise...
Timing....

While we continue to send stuff off for analysis
No connection between noises and the debris field.

There would have been a significant sound that would have been picked up

(Ie it was before they started looking and listening

@topnoddy

How come this titanium was floating on the surface I wonder

It wasn't...

Me too. Just hugged my boy. I can't even imagine.

The physics are this I'm going to try keep it as polite in the circumstances as possible.

The pressure increases as you go below the ocean as the weight of the water above increases, this means that all gasses that are not pushing back with equal pressure are compressed. So every molecule or space for gas in every item/person/ship that does not have the equal force push back will be instantly squeezed with the same pressure force of the water above to the same amount.

So if you see Styrofoam / polystyrene cups being sent down they are compressed into tiny sizes as the gas within them is literally squeezed into non existence. So any solids like metal and glass that has no space for gas in its molecular make up will stay the same. But any matter that contains any gas will literally be squeezed into a solid or until the gasses have the same pressure as pressing down on them.

You will still find all the solid material, its a bit like having a full balloon compared to an empty one.

We can all hope it happened on the way down. What if it happened after being sat on the sea floor for days, stuck with no power? Doesn't bear thinking about don’t think about it then.

Honestly I don’t understand why people need to invent worst case scenarios when the obvious answer is almost certainly the right one.

The sub lost contact four days ago. No contact from it. It didn’t surface as was supposed to even in the event of a lost contact.

Then it is found four days later having suffered a catastrophic explosion. Something which has always been suggested was possible.

Why do people insist on conjuring up a picture of these people sat dying for days as their oxygen ran out, rather than accepting what actually happened.

They are implying it happened when they lost contact.

The debris is below where it was when it lost contact

No noise was heard so it happened before the search began.

Water rushes in, filling and taking up all previously held space by oxygen. Soft tissue can't expand, meaning the lungs collapse, cardiovascular failure. Meanwhile while this is going on the brain is undergoing immense pressure, multiple hemorrhages.

It literally happens in milliseconds though. Faster than you can click your fingers

Corpse wise, if that's what you mean, there will be no recovery, but the pressure will have crushed soft tissue. Look in short it ain't going to look pretty, and they won't look like floating serine sleeping corpses I'm afraid.

Thanks @chupachucks for such a clear explanation.

Having seen what it does to Styrofoam cups, no wonder there's chance of recovering any bodies.

These people were intelligent adults who chose to undertake a very dangerous activity. They understood and accepted the risks involved. Just as people who choose to climb Everest, or trek to the poles, or ride the Isle of Man TT do, or on a more mundane level ride horses, do. Most of the time they get away with it, sometimes their luck runs out. Sadly, them’s the breaks.

Condolences to their bereaved families

The correlation with the Titanic can't be lost on people.

Safety issues raised but ignored etc. History repeating itself.

Sorry, NO chance of recovering (typing too fast and shellshocked like everyone is)

Just listened to the coast guard. They did a great job

Very sad

so were they sat on the seabed for days making the banging sound, and then they imploded? Could the act of banging have caused the implosion?

It was over before any of us knew about it.

There's a link below about the physical condition of the divers killed in a Norwegian oil filed disaster.

It's grim reading.

The banging was a red herring. They died two miles down.