Missing Titan Sub! Thread 4

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As thread 3 is filling up here is a new one. For the benefit of those just joining the conversation;

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Yes we know they're billionaires
We can discuss things that are horrifying and ghoulish, thanks for your opinion.
Migrant boats are sad too

As you were 😁

You must have a superb view from up there on your high horse @hindere

Your virtue signalling is considerably more offensive - and very patronising to the bereaved families - than any condolences offered on here.

This thread has gone weird

Things have changed since this morning

But if people want to report they’ve let everyone know which is great

I've seen that too! ☹️

Really fucking weird. Deranged even.

@hindere it has been confirmed that the debris field is debris from the sub. I'm sorry but that does mean that they are gone. There is no knowing if they will ever find the hull. Reporting people for saying RIP is just ridiculous at this point.

It's this nonsense that propels the 'hope they are found alive' frenzy when the outcome is very likely death.

BBC just reporting nature of debris now. It says something that I can read news on Mumsnet half an hour before the BBC.

Your post did not come across as flippant or insensitive. Rather, it was pragmatic and raised some valid points about what lessons might be learned.

(I have enjoyed reading your posts as they are sensible and well-written.)

The link and capture are from 18:00. It's a live thread.

I've just read that too. It's so sad, I was hoping they would be found alive but it looks like they have been dead since Sunday 😞

Always good to wait for official confirmation rather than rely on social media.

Who is this "we" of whom you speak?

The morality police.

Oh...that picture clearly shows that if the rear tail has been found then the hull/body of sub has been breached for certain.

I didn't realize you were in charge of the thread.

That's basically what the guy on sky news said. If those pieces have been found then something catastrophic has happened.

Provided a post does not break MN guidelines, people can post what they like.

You can read it on MN because the interviewee on Sky released the information before it was supposed to be made public. The BBC was waiting to release when the US Coastguard deemed appropriate.

I know the Sky interviewee was a friend to some of the people on the sub but it was hugely inappropriate that he announced the nature of the debris when the coast guard obviously wanted to ensure all family were informed before officially releasing the information.

That was my thought.

Sky news were just live on YouTube confirming it was the frame and pointy bit.

I doubt this will be the last manned exploration of the titanic. There have been many many successful dives. Many more than we have heard about in the past few days and even more if you look at deep sea missions across the globe.
What I suspect will happen is much more rigorous testing and research before submersibles are allowed to descend. I would also not be supposed if there became an authority to oversea submersibles and the testing of them.

Space exploration hasn't stopped because of previous fatalities. But with each incident new rules and procedures have come into play to prevent a repeat of previous incidents.

Can't disagree with that!

Honestly arguing the toss doesn't help. Just ignore what irritates you. Life is calmer that way.

Indeed!

My first husband's father worked in Harland and Wolff as a draughtsman. He's seen the archives of the Titanic plans and spoke often of the skill and artistry of each person who worked on that ship. However, the ship sank partially because of cost cuttings to the rivets and the steel used. These savings fractured what should have been a ship to last a generation.