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Missing Titan Sub! Thread 4

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Mommasgotabrandnewbag · 22/06/2023 13:01

As thread 3 is filling up here is a new one. For the benefit of those just joining the conversation;

Thread 1
Thread 2
Thread 3

Yes we know they're billionaires
We can discuss things that are horrifying and ghoulish, thanks for your opinion.
Migrant boats are sad too

As you were 😁

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How horrifying that a submarine carrying 5 people has gone missing. Apparently there’s only 96 hours of air on the submarine when it sets off. The...

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KnickerlessParsons · 22/06/2023 16:49

'Excuse my ignorance, why doesn't this thing just end up floating back up to surface??'

From what I've read on here, it has weighs to stop it floating back up. It needs the weights to make it sink in the first place, and to help keep it down there. The ropes holding the weights to the submersible are supposed to dissolve after a while so the weights fall off, but who knows whether that happened?

We don't know for a fact the thing is at the bottom of the sea anyway. The weights could well have fallen off, and it could well be bobbing about on the surface, or somewhere half way. But it would be pretty difficult for a plan to spot a tiny grey speck on a huge grey ocean from far up in the sky.

chilledtuesdays · 22/06/2023 16:52

breaking news: debris found in search for sub

Isthisexpected · 22/06/2023 16:52

Oh no

missally · 22/06/2023 16:53

Where did you see this

chilledtuesdays · 22/06/2023 16:53

on sky news now

Elerandooo · 22/06/2023 16:53

A debris field has been found in the area the submersible went to (not related to the Titanic wreck) 😓

Tillyteacup · 22/06/2023 16:55

Debris has been found. Not looking good.

YoSof · 22/06/2023 16:55

Oh no. Although I do hope this means it happened quickly and painlessly.

evuscha · 22/06/2023 16:55

Itsaknotat · 22/06/2023 16:41

Why would you if the agreed method is universally recognised?

I would assume that actually it’s better to make the noise at intervals? Showing that it is indeed intentional and human made, and not just some random noise from the ocean?

I haven’t seen the updates if the sounds are genuine and really at 30m intervals, but if they are, that would lead me to believe it was them.

DontGoBreakingMyHeart · 22/06/2023 16:56

StarmanBobby · 22/06/2023 16:45

'If these had been five teenagers who had built a sub in their garage and gone down into Poole harbour would there be this level of publicity?'

yes! And probably less judgement.

500 immigrants on a boat tho... not sure anyone would really care beyond the initial headline. In fact - that's just happened, and I don't know a thing other than that initial headline... I certainly don't know any of their hobbies, who their great grandparents were, or anything else

Hmm I’m not so sure about that. If five kids built a sub in their garage people would say they were idiots. In the same way people who go out surfing in tide warnings are idiots. I mean it’s sad when they come to grief, but they’re still idiotic for having done what they did.

In this instance I think that there actually isn’t an awful lot of sympathy for these men, because people feel they were wreckless, and one of the reasons people are judging them by virtue of them being billionaires is because they essentially took the approach that could have whatever they want.

Want to go and have a look at the titanic? No problem. Where there’s the money there’s a way.

Elerandooo · 22/06/2023 16:56

Coastguard update at 8pm UK time.

ARareKindaBear · 22/06/2023 16:57

Doesn’t sound good but I suppose it’s some comfort that they havnt all been sat there for days terrified

JustCheckingUp · 22/06/2023 16:58

Oh bless them. If this is the conclusion, I hope it was fast and they hadn’t a clue what happened

ThreeRingCircus · 22/06/2023 16:58

As horrendous as this is, I'm sort of hoping now that it imploded early on and the banging noises turn out to be something else. At least that way death would have been instantaneous. Obviously there is still a shred of hope that at least some of them will be found alive, although it looks like that shred of hope is getting smaller and smaller.

It's confusing because at first some reports were saying that because all comms systems went down at the same time, that would imply something catastrophic like an implosion had happened. Also because it hadn't yet reached the Titanic so couldn't be stuck on a part of the ship (although could be trapped in a floating net.) So implosion looked, sadly, likely. But then with the reports of banging sounds that gave some hope, even if the prospect of them being trapped down there was horrific.

I just pray the family get some answers. The thought that they may never find anything must be unbearable.

Locutus2000 · 22/06/2023 16:58

Being reported US coastguard has found a 'debris field' by Titanic

pushnpull · 22/06/2023 16:58

AlligatorPsychopath · 22/06/2023 16:33

I stand corrected - didn't check that part before I posted - but the general point, i.e. that things function very differently than they do on the surface at atmospheric pressure, holds.

I read that the pressure at the depth the Titanic is, is equivalent to having the Empire State building on top of you.

SunnyEgg · 22/06/2023 16:58

That’s sad

TheTERFnextDoor · 22/06/2023 16:59

What is a "debris field" in this context?

StayLiquid · 22/06/2023 16:59

Locutus2000 · 22/06/2023 16:58

Being reported US coastguard has found a 'debris field' by Titanic

If the debris belongs to the sub, does that mean it will have imploded?

Worriedmum107 · 22/06/2023 16:59

I read that if it had imploded the noise would have been huge and heard from mikes away by various sonar devices. If there is debris, does that not mean it imploded? Why wasn't it heard? And what were the banging noises every 30 minutes?

Elerandooo · 22/06/2023 17:00

TheTERFnextDoor · 22/06/2023 16:59

What is a "debris field" in this context?

I assume debris that looks like it could belong to something fresh down there rather than the wreck of the titanic or such.

placemats · 22/06/2023 17:00

MucozadeOnLucozade · 22/06/2023 16:30

Excuse my ignorance, why doesn't this thing just end up floating back up to surface??

It has lead weights attached which can then be jettisoned to facilitate an ascent.

ThreeRingCircus · 22/06/2023 17:01

Oh I hadn't seen the update about debris. How absolutely tragic but I hope it was an implosion early on. At least that way it would have been instantaneous and they wouldn't have known anything about it.

Those poor families.

The company have some explaining to do.

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