Missing Titanic Submarine- new thread

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I see the first one is full, is there a new one?

You've expressed sentiments I completely agree with, more eloquently than I did in my comment. It's a tragic situation all round.

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For many poeople the warnings will be an added incentive.

To those saying the waivers aren't worth the paper they're printed on and families could sue - who do you sue? The CEO is down there, too. The company has probably gone down with him - and even if not wouldn't have the cash to pay adequate compensation for this.

The most anyone could hope for would be to find the cause, and to allocate any blame (if appropriate).

Talk about winching the submersible up, looking at it I can't see where or how they would attach a cable to winch it up.

I mean.. the submarine is partially made of old scaffolding poles. Sounds to me like it's been a slap-dash creation.

The best submersible the Russians could have used to rescue those from the Kursk was the Mir submersible. However this deep sea submersible was sold to private entrepreneurs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(submersible)

I am glad to see some people on this thread having a normal human response to the awful fact that there is a 19-year-old kid in the Titan. When I said yesterday or the day before that I found it astonishing that someone had taken his child with him on this extremely dangerous trip, the predictable response was "he is an adult not a child". Like the legal definition of what is a child or an adult is the point...

I mentioned upthread, we all breathe at really different rates so I don't know how they calculate the 96 hours. At least in scuba diving that's the case. For some people a tank of air will last less than an hour, others can do closer to 2 hours on the same amount.

And it's not just body size. My DH is at least 20kg heavier than me but uses less air.

Can you imagine how quickly you would breathe taking a panic attack at being inside there. Its horrendous it really is. I dont care who they are or what money they have this is a tragedy if they cannot be saved and it is looking less and less likely as the hours go along.

Yes aspiration is very different in a lot of situations and humans do differ.

We're all assuming that the Dad took the kid but for all we know it was the 19 year old obsessed with visiting the Titanic and the Dad humouring him. The mother and sister haven't said anything so we're all just speculating here. I guess this entire thread is speculation but it seems a bit unfair without any evidence at all.

Presumably the 96h is modelled on a “typical” crew member, a 40 year old reasonably fit male or whatever.

It's a submersible, not a submarine.

I said the very same thing to my husband as we have a boy that age.

I find the whole thing very upsetting.

Those poor families.
His poor mother.

Just awful.

Can't stop thinking of them.

Am very, very mildly claustrophobic so the idea of it, is horrific.

I mean, this is just splitting hairs. This expedition and its vehicle have failed catastrophically because the humans inside were not back up after 8 hours as they were supposed to, they will almost certainly die, and there was no plan for how to deal with a situation like this from the company running the trips. It really doesn't make a difference right now if the bolted tin can itself is intact or not.

The first line of OceanGate's Wiki entry has been changed to " A privately held US company that provides one way tickets to Davy Jones' Locker". 😮

I am sure I read somewhere that Stockton Rush is a Princeton educated engineer.

Breathing not aspiration, though in a panic attack the latter can happen with saliva.

Indeed, the Carpathia saved an amazing 705 lives . It took them 4 hours to get to the Titanic due to where they were when they picked up the distress signal.
As a side note, a local pub in a nearby village has a blue plaque dedicated to Harold Cottam ,the radio operator of the Carpathia who picked up the Titanic distress call and the 705 lives he saved. He was from the area and retired to this village and drank in the aforementioned pub.

"Can you imagine how quickly you would breathe taking a panic attack at being inside there. Its horrendous it really is."

That's what you're doing, imagining. Making things up.

Everyone who knows these men knows they have cool, calm heads. You don't get to where they are by blowing into a paper bag at the first whiff of a problem.

The French robot, Victor, will be there later today apparently. It doesn't have lifting capabilities but can cut cables or attach them to another vessel.

Thanks @Emotionalsupportviper

I'll slink off and watch it when I can.

The 19yrnold doesn't though, or his father I imagine..

I'd highly doubt with the knowledge that they're in a critical situation and quite literally counting down the minutes, that they have been able to keep completely cool, calm and collected - no matter how much so they are in daily life. 😞

A true hero and an amazing rescue mission. 👏

You have no idea. They might be the calmest of the lot for all we know.