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Missing Titanic Submarine- new thread

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YoSof · 20/06/2023 22:37

I see the first one is full, is there a new one?

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Emotionalsupportviper · 21/06/2023 13:12

AtomicBlondeRose · 21/06/2023 12:29

The lack of food and water isn’t actually much of a safety issue in all honesty - there’s a very limited amount of space and I’d imagine a weight limit too on board. The main issue is the oxygen. No point keeping people alive if they’re going to die from lack of oxygen anyway. There may be some small
amount of water on board but at this point food and water is for comfort. They can’t physically live long enough to die of starvation (which is awful). Dehydration is bad but they will also be passing out/sleeping a lot due to low oxygen levels anyway. Which might be a preferable situation, horrible as it sounds.

Lack of water certainly IS a problem.

Thirst is agonisingly painful, can impair cognition, weaken people who are already struggling against low oxygen/ high carbon dioxide levels, and quite literally can send people insane. Having someone raving with thirst-based paranoia would be very difficult to cope with.

Florissante · 21/06/2023 13:12

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 21/06/2023 13:06

it's very boring to have posters spewing faux-concern over a topic that they are clearly following with relish

What's even more boring is posters gloating over the imminent deaths of five people because the latter are wealthy.

tortoishelll · 21/06/2023 13:19

There are reports of several other vessels heading over to the titanic site to aid in the search for Titan. Fingers are tightly crossed that something is discovered.

maranella · 21/06/2023 13:21

Apparently though, the scrubber is operated by battery power, and the maximum that could operate the scrubber for is 40 hours.

And they've been missing now for significantly longer than 40 hours Sad

milkyaqua · 21/06/2023 13:25

maranella · 21/06/2023 13:21

Apparently though, the scrubber is operated by battery power, and the maximum that could operate the scrubber for is 40 hours.

And they've been missing now for significantly longer than 40 hours Sad

I think there were two backups to the scrubber, one described involved strips that hung and somehow reduced CO2. It was in one of the videos describing the features, probably the one on this thread with Stockton Rush.

Tidsleytiddy · 21/06/2023 13:26

FernGully43 · 21/06/2023 13:12

I have just been reading an article that states Hamish Harding's friend was also supposed to be on that voyage and pulled out due to safety concerns. He talks about some of the things that worried him and felt it wasn't worth the risk and got a refund.

He must be watching feeling sick with relief.

Indeed

OnlyOpenMouthToChangeFeet · 21/06/2023 13:28

Emotionalsupportviper · 21/06/2023 13:12

Lack of water certainly IS a problem.

Thirst is agonisingly painful, can impair cognition, weaken people who are already struggling against low oxygen/ high carbon dioxide levels, and quite literally can send people insane. Having someone raving with thirst-based paranoia would be very difficult to cope with.

The whole trip - dive, view, surface - is only meant total 10 hours in total. Apparently a previous "explorer" stated they took a small bottle of water and sandwich each. They were recommended to limit supplies due to the primitive toilet facilities.

maranella · 21/06/2023 13:32

Also hard to interpret what “negative results” means, does it mean they haven’t yielded any clues to act on, they haven’t been heard anymore, or that they have been ruled out as coming from the sub?

It's ambiguous - I agree - and maybe that's the point? IMO 'negative' in comms parlance means 'no' or 'haven't been able to confirm'.

Ovinnik · 21/06/2023 13:33

Florissante · 21/06/2023 13:03

You know that how?

I suspect it was a conjecture from the context. Seems perfectly reasonable.

milkyaqua · 21/06/2023 13:36

Also hard to interpret what “negative results” means, does it mean they haven’t yielded any clues to act on, they haven’t been heard anymore, or that they have been ruled out as coming from the sub?

It means they have not found them, as yet.

Emotionalsupportviper · 21/06/2023 13:42

Ovinnik · 21/06/2023 13:33

I suspect it was a conjecture from the context. Seems perfectly reasonable.

It does seem reasonable.

When you have that sort of money I would think that you often get int the mindset of a) my money protects me, b) my money buys anything I want and c) I can afford the best of everything because I can throw money at it.

It's then a short step to "I want this and I will be safe because it's costing me a lot of money so it must be very high quality."

Wheresthebeach · 21/06/2023 13:44

I suspect it was also the case of 'nobody would do this without taking all sensible precautions, and the CEO is with us'. They wouldn't think the CEO would risk his own life with dodgy kit. Money isn't an issue so why in God's name didn't they make every effort to make it safe. Unless part of the fun was the 'look at us, going to the bottom of the ocean with a play station controller'. I don't know. It's tragic.

Wheresthebeach · 21/06/2023 13:46

I also think a lot of people are dismissive of Health and Safety as 'nannies', until it goes wrong.

meditrina · 21/06/2023 13:50

Emotionalsupportviper · 21/06/2023 13:12

Lack of water certainly IS a problem.

Thirst is agonisingly painful, can impair cognition, weaken people who are already struggling against low oxygen/ high carbon dioxide levels, and quite literally can send people insane. Having someone raving with thirst-based paranoia would be very difficult to cope with.

You will start to show signs of dehydration after about a day. This becomes serious after 2 days, and critical thereafter. They have oxygen to 4, but unless there is a water supply, then they are at considerable risk.

Death would typically occur between 2 and 4 days.

Neverinamonthofsundays · 21/06/2023 13:57

Everytime I leave the house and come back I am hoping for news. Nothing. God love them.

milkyaqua · 21/06/2023 13:59

meditrina · 21/06/2023 13:50

You will start to show signs of dehydration after about a day. This becomes serious after 2 days, and critical thereafter. They have oxygen to 4, but unless there is a water supply, then they are at considerable risk.

Death would typically occur between 2 and 4 days.

I think hypothermia would be be more of a problem in their situation than dehydration.

Weal · 21/06/2023 14:00

What a horrible way to go. It’s must be extremely scary to be lost and realise that you are in one of the most remote and difficult to access places on earth!!

I struggle to understand the scale of the depth they are at. It’s quite unimaginable.

Weal · 21/06/2023 14:00

@milkyaqua i was wondering about hypothermia after reading they would be cold.

milkyaqua · 21/06/2023 14:07

Weal · 21/06/2023 14:00

@milkyaqua i was wondering about hypothermia after reading they would be cold.

Yes, it's just so scary to think of them in their predicament. I am hoping they are not right down at the bottom of the ocean, where it would be extremely cold, but are floating in a some current below or near the surface, and that they are found miraculously.

Hohohogreenjennie · 21/06/2023 14:08

Sorry if this has already been mentioned upthread but in regards to the banging I read that it’s possible the banging was a direct current hitting or shifts through the wreckage of the Titanic. Apparently it happens a lot.

tortoishelll · 21/06/2023 14:10

There's a very harrowing account from a scientist and journalist that went down to the titanic wreckage himself with a team a while back and became stuck. He recalls the moments and is very clearly shaken. It's absolutely harrowing. Thank goodness, he was able to get out.

He mentioned strong currents very deep underneath the ocean. They are more common than realised.

Harping · 21/06/2023 14:11

They are saying on sky news now that they do now have viable solution for bringing the sub to the surface. But I believe the timescale doesn’t really sound achievable unfortunately.

anonacfr · 21/06/2023 14:14

One of Nargeolet's friends, also a diver and Titanic expert, mentioned that Nargeolet told him a few months back that he wasn't looking forward to the dive.

Apparently he didn't trust the submersible. He wasn't sure about the technology OceanGate used.

Harping · 21/06/2023 14:14

Any experts that are being interviewed sound so pessimistic. Perhaps only hope really is that it is noticed in the surface of the sea

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