Missing Titanic Submarine- new thread

[YoSof]

I see the first one is full, is there a new one?

I actually wondered if the other crew had seen off the CEO to buy them some more oxygen time.
Its mad what you think they might think about in this situation

Would probably be a suicide mission, I'd imagine would destroy the pressure integrity of the sub, then it would be the end for them all anyway.

The cyanide thing seems a bit silly too. Its not easy to access and it would be a horrific death too. I think I'd rather just suffocate/fall asleep and die.

This article explains thes search:

https://apple.news/Ar_DrszTlTUyR79awJDRjvw

A bottle of liquid morphine would do the job quite effectively in this situation!

Then being an active poster, you ought to be aware of the bookmark feature and avail yourself of its use.

Not really, most modern airplanes can fly with the doors open - well removed, it is a procedure that can be done if there is a fire onboard.

Recently a passenger managed to open a door.

https://news.sky.com/story/passenger-opens-plane-door-mid-flight-12889770

Plenty of people post on a thread to get it into their TIO. Bookmark feature isn't the same thing.

That's if the rest of them haven't beaten the sh1t out of him.

Latest on the noise:

Rear Admiral John Mauger of the US Coast Guard, who is heading the search for the Titan, has told CBS News it is a complex operation and an international effort.
Mauger confirmed that an aircraft had detected noise in the water picked up by sonar buoys on Tuesday, but said: “We don’t know the source of that noise.”

'A submarine search and rescue expert in Australia, Frank Owen, tells the BBC his “confidence went up by an order of magnitude” when he heard reports of banging being detected by floating sound detectors.
“There's a couple of reasons for that,” he explains. “Firstly, on board this craft is a retired French navy diver. He would know the protocol for trying to alert searching forces… on the hour and the half hour you bang like hell for three minutes.”
He says the sound signal being picked by a buoy close to the surface also suggests that the sub itself could be near or at the surface.
“Below about 180 metres, the water temperature drops very rapidly,” he explained. “That creates a layer that the [sonar signal] bounces off. But if you’re in the same depth water it tends to go quite straight.”
Even if Titan is at the surface, it will be difficult to spot. Very little of the small, white vessel sits above the water.
But using an array of sound-detecting buoys to triangulate the signal could narrow down its position.'

I found this interesting, and encouraging, from BBC News.

The titanic must create some kind of sound when the current is strong enough. I wonder if the noises picked up are general shifting sounds of the ship / debris. So sad.

The lack of food and water isn’t actually much of a safety issue in all honesty - there’s a very limited amount of space and I’d imagine a weight limit too on board. The main issue is the oxygen. No point keeping people alive if they’re going to die from lack of oxygen anyway. There may be some small
amount of water on board but at this point food and water is for comfort. They can’t physically live long enough to die of starvation (which is awful). Dehydration is bad but they will also be passing out/sleeping a lot due to low oxygen levels anyway. Which might be a preferable situation, horrible as it sounds.

Sounds encouraging thanks for putting that up

My understanding is that, if the O2 runs out, you basically die from CO2 poisoning. So it's not quite as horrific as the concept of suddenly having no O2.

Years ago there was a BBC. documentary where a scientist (possibly Jonathan Miller?) breathed in his own exhalations - if that makes sense - to chart the effects. It was as though he was drunk - at first he was a bit clumsy, then he was slurring his words, then uncoordinated. They stopped it there, but the next stage would have been unconsciousness. He said it wasn't scary or painful. More like going under anaesthetic.

I really hope that they are rescued but think that is very unlikely. I just hope their is a painless end for them

Reports on Sky News are saying that the banging is on the hour and half hour for a 3 minute duration. This is a procedure used by the armed forces in these situations, so would indicate that someone is still alive.

UPDATE:

An investigation into underwater noises coming from the area of the search for the missing Titan submersible has come up "negative", officials have said.
The sounds were picked up by a Canadian plane with underwater sonar capabilities after it was deployed in the search for the missing vessel.
They were picked up again when search teams deployed more radars in the area, However, the US Coast Guard said on Wednesday that an investigation of the noises using specialist underwater equipment had "yielded negative results".

The idea that people have that they'd be located and rescued by banging on the side of the sub seems...naive.

milkyaqua
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Plenty of people post on a thread to get it into their TIO. Bookmark feature isn't the same thing.

Just so. Thanks for explaining to milky @SheilaFentiman

Do you generally know more than experts or is it just sea rescue?

'A submarine search and rescue expert in Australia, Frank Owen, tells the BBC his “confidence went up by an order of magnitude” when he heard reports of banging being detected by floating sound detectors.

why naive ? a lady was rescued from the twin towers because she was clapping her hands .

This isn't a go at you @tortoishelll but from that report:

"The sounds were picked up by a Canadian plane with underwater sonar capabilities after it was deployed in the search for the missing vessel.
They were picked up again when search teams deployed more radars in the area,"

🙄

Has nobody in the media got a clue about tech, engineering or science anymore, or do they simply not care about accuracy in the rush to file?

These type of threads remind me of the many threads about the missing women who went into the river/canal and her body was found later.

Massive of guessing and speculation. Maybe wait for news. I imagine the diving experts and coastguards have a slightly better idea of what's happened to it?

@notimagain I think the news channels are all rushing to update. I completely get what you're saying!

But your post was "Marking place again for news."

Rather than announcing that, you could have posted... anything on the topic. It would have served the same purpose.