Missing Titanic Submarine- new thread

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I see the first one is full, is there a new one?

I suspect the Navy guy with decades of maritime experience, might just know SOS

But SOS is to signal you are in trouble when it may not be apparent you are. It's definite that, wherever they are (IF they are) they are in trouble

I am struggling to sympathise, its horrific and the stuff of nightmares but it was an extraordinarily arrogant and foolhardy thing to do. The bit I really don't get tis the 19 year old, you can have disregard for your own life but your 19 year old sons?

I am baffled why you are being so unpleasant tbh. To posters and about the victims in this horrible tragedy.

You are insisting it probably didn't. It was likely to be another ship. Maybe. But it is being reported as significant by the people on the ground conducting the search.

I am no expert. But I know how to listen to what those who are experts are saying in news conferences.

If he's current he should be able to work through the whole alphabet...though possibly slowly....

..."Elephants in Straw Hats Ten miles off"

He's no more crass than some posters on this thread.

Perhaps the son was a titanic enthusiast and his father agreed to take him on a trip to see the wreck? Though it really was not the best idea.

The sheer lack of basic safety measures is chilling. Whether was laziness, cost-cutting, or just a lack of knowledge it's led to these poor buggers being (at best) killed almost instantly due to implosion and being crushed by the pressure/force of water, and at worst slowly and horribly dying in fetid, unsanitary air, in the dark and the bitter cold, desperately afraid and desperately thirsty.

The faces of the experts on the news show exactly what they think the chances are of getting anyone back alive, even when they are trying to seem optimistic.

Not water tightness, but pressure testing of the carbon fibre construction itself.

On it's last journey, they also lost it for 5 hours. Which was probably why they took 8 hours to report it to the coastguard, as they yard crossing their fingers it would right itself, and it wouldn't be made public just how shoddy the attitudes of the company towards build standards and safety have been.

What basic safety measures do you think are missing?

Why do that when one can virtue signal in an existing thread?

A locator beacon

Yes that was horrific

OK my comment on the Morse was stupid, I'd completely forgotten the backgrounds of the men.

Despite losing it for 5 hours on last excursion, they didn't even have a distress beacon!!

Wherever it is coming from it needs to be located and ruled in or out.

Tremel's multiple posts have nothing constructive to contribute to the thread but are an opportunity for sneering at wealthy people.

Maybe they'll bring in regulations going forward

It's a submersible, not a submarine.

Let's hope so. I don't care how many times they mention death in a waiver, I don't know anywhere in the world it's legal to effectively give someone permission to murder you!

Yes, this is fair enough. This would help if it was on the surface. If it is trapped on the sea bed, I don't think that this would affect the possibility of a rescue.

I think we can all agree that the safety failures are shocking. Even just painting it yellow to help it be spotted would have been an improvement! And the lack of a simple locator beacon is ridiculous. The news says a whistleblower was sacked for pointing out safety failures a couple of years ago. They just haven’t taken even the most basic precautions.

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Sorry - I hope people will forgive me laughing, but I needed that bit of silliness.

Thank you Tokyo. Are you a medic? There is a lot of gallows humour in medicine. It's the only way many of us can cope. (I nearly made a remark myself earlier, but caught myself just in time. There's a narrow line between tension relief and bad taste.)

No it wasn't a stupid question at all.

FWIW there quite a lot of automated decoding available now (certainly in aircraft), so understanding the dots and dashes is becoming a dying art/skill but I think the authorities still insist on a basic level for licence issue..

There's little doubt that the safety measures were insufficient. Which I find really odd, as I'd expect people into extreme adventures to be incredibly safety conscious. People who take risks in water/mountains etc are usually inexperienced and don't understand the nature of the risk they are taking. The whole thing is baffling beyond works. Not doing a pressure test on the fix is just shocking. As are the reports that it wasn't fit to go to the depths they'd planned to go to.

Ensuring that the craft was pressure-checked for the depth they intended to take it to would have been a good start.