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Missing Titanic Submarine- new thread

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YoSof · 20/06/2023 22:37

I see the first one is full, is there a new one?

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EnthENd · 21/06/2023 08:34

LifeonMarss · 21/06/2023 08:32

Has the CEO spoken out at all? I've seen clips of him talking about building the submarine and can't believe he got some of submarine parts from what is essentially B&Q and it's being controlled by a done up XBOX controller, it sounds like a DT project I would have done in school

He was one of the people on board the current dive, so no.

milkyaqua · 21/06/2023 08:34

LifeonMarss · 21/06/2023 08:32

Has the CEO spoken out at all? I've seen clips of him talking about building the submarine and can't believe he got some of submarine parts from what is essentially B&Q and it's being controlled by a done up XBOX controller, it sounds like a DT project I would have done in school

He can't speak out, because he is inside the submersible.

Harping · 21/06/2023 08:35

Thisisacoolusername that sounds like a better update

TappingTed · 21/06/2023 08:35

LifeonMarss · 21/06/2023 08:32

Has the CEO spoken out at all? I've seen clips of him talking about building the submarine and can't believe he got some of submarine parts from what is essentially B&Q and it's being controlled by a done up XBOX controller, it sounds like a DT project I would have done in school

Considering he’s onboard… no.

milkyaqua · 21/06/2023 08:36

ThisIsACoolUserName · 21/06/2023 07:53

There are three deep sea specialists on board the sub. They know there's zero prospect of being rescued from that depth. It made me wonder if they're only banging on the sub to give the other two passengers a sense of hope.

We don't know what depth they are at, though.

LifeonMarss · 21/06/2023 08:36

embarrassing for me to have read numerous articles on it and didn't realise that he was on board somehow? I'll let him off the hook for not speaking out then.

Florissante · 21/06/2023 08:36

notimagain · 21/06/2023 08:15

@Caterpillor

I have no issue with money being spent on rescue, I'm sure the authorities are learning a lot,

Agreed, and given some of the assets involved such as aircraft/ships would be flying/sailing anyway (for pure training purpose) I'm not sure how much extra any rescue/recovery attempt actually adds to the various coastguard and military budgets.

Agreed. It's nice to see the occasional sensible posts amongst the class warrior nonsense.

cakeorwine · 21/06/2023 08:37

BalanceMeHumours · 21/06/2023 08:16

I get that.

I think there are limits and limits...

The first to do someone is one limit. Pioneers really trying to discover our world.

How many people can then follow them, with little regard to the impact of them doing so and little serious interest in further human knowledge. That's a different limit - and the one that frustrates me. No one looking at Everest (for eg) today would say that it's a good thing that you can pay £50,000 and be almost guaranteed a walk to the top, with someone telling you where to place your feet, someone carrying your luggage and litres of oxygen to help you get there, throwing litter as you go so that it doesn't have to be carried back down again.

OTOH - it brings money into the community and the country and provides employment.

Rich people have money. They are free to spend it on what they want. If they want to spend it on a submersible trip to see the Titanic or on space tourism, then that's their business.

The pollution at Everest is another thing though - and a separate conversation.

GreenWheat · 21/06/2023 08:38

Tremel · 21/06/2023 07:53

How do you know that they will? I'd imagine all their resources are about to be taken up by suing the company that organised this.

I don't, but my point is neither do you. You seemed rather certain about funding and resources.

ThisIsACoolUserName · 21/06/2023 08:38

Yes there's now murmers that they might be closer to the surface than initially thought.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 21/06/2023 08:38

I suspect (it's not that unusual with these very specific start ups) that we haven't heard much from the company because it's essentially a very charismatic and driven CEO with some very skilled technical engineers/people working for him. And probably somebody part time for payroll/admin.

If there's a problem and the CEO isn't there, there isn't really anybody that press and comments devolves too (and in this case, would you want to be saying anything?!).

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:39

*Agreed, and given some of the assets involved such as aircraft/ships would be flying/sailing anyway (for pure training purpose) I'm not sure how much extra any rescue/recovery attempt actually adds to the various coastguard and military budgets(

🤣🤣 I'm sorry but that is laughable

chilledtuesdays · 21/06/2023 08:39

they must be found today or there's no chance of survival. Best hope is that they've come up somewhere and will be traced today. Looking very unlikely though.

Florissante · 21/06/2023 08:39

Meadowfly · 21/06/2023 00:24

But it doesn’t sound like they were doing any meaningful research and development.

Sigh. Research and development have to occur before operations. It's an ongoing cycle.

notimagain · 21/06/2023 08:39

darkmodeon · 21/06/2023 08:24

No they have equipment that can hear deep

Used to be called passive sonar..

The aircraft version involves the aircraft dropping buoys equipped with microphones into the water. Unlike active sonar there is no "pinging" involved, these things just sit there listening to the noises in the ocean and sending the sounds back to the aircraft overhead for analysis.

Put buoys into the water in a known pattern and you may be able to pin down the location of any sounds of interest.

Florissante · 21/06/2023 08:40

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:39

*Agreed, and given some of the assets involved such as aircraft/ships would be flying/sailing anyway (for pure training purpose) I'm not sure how much extra any rescue/recovery attempt actually adds to the various coastguard and military budgets(

🤣🤣 I'm sorry but that is laughable

As are your posts. But still they appear. Alas.

CookieCutter8 · 21/06/2023 08:42

Even if they do manage to locate the sub now, can they still survive? If they are at the bottom or tangled in titanic wreckage that would be a huge operation in itself.
They have heard banging, and I'm praying for a miracle, but it's very much against the clock now, or possibly even too late already even if they are still alive 😔
Their poor poor families too, just so awful beyond words for them.

BookLover7777 · 21/06/2023 08:43

Mommasgotabrandnewbag · 21/06/2023 08:02

Not even the most basic safety measures taken. No ability for the sub to send a distress signal, no way for the passengers to get themselves free (wouldn't it make sense for them to seal themselves in? Even if it was still with bolts from the inside? ) it's not even painted a bright colour so it's easy to spot if it ascended and is floating somewhere.

I've been thinking about the door situation and I wonder if it's been done that way to stop anyone who is overcome by panic from trying to get out. All the accounts I've read of people who've done the trip say they struggled with the confinement at times. If someone starts freaking out and making a grab for the door, it could be catastrophic.

OvaHere · 21/06/2023 08:43

aurynne · 21/06/2023 06:42

...with their own lives and that of the son of one of them? Just for the fun of seeing the Titanic? Do you really believe this is what happened? In my scarce experience with millionaires, they are quite happy risking other people's lives, but extremely cautious of risking their own, or their heirs'.

They're still human and at risk of things like sunk cost fallacy etc. like anyone else. See also JFK Jr's ill fated flight to Martha's Vineyard. They should never have flown in those circumstances but he was over confident and it cost his life and that of his wife and her sister. It happens.

Willmafrockfit · 21/06/2023 08:44

they knew the risks, the risk of death is mentioned 3 times i read

milkyaqua · 21/06/2023 08:45

BookLover7777 · 21/06/2023 08:43

I've been thinking about the door situation and I wonder if it's been done that way to stop anyone who is overcome by panic from trying to get out. All the accounts I've read of people who've done the trip say they struggled with the confinement at times. If someone starts freaking out and making a grab for the door, it could be catastrophic.

No, it is done lilke that to make the vessel more able to withstand the pressure of the ocean waters.

Willmafrockfit · 21/06/2023 08:45

BookLover7777 · 21/06/2023 08:43

I've been thinking about the door situation and I wonder if it's been done that way to stop anyone who is overcome by panic from trying to get out. All the accounts I've read of people who've done the trip say they struggled with the confinement at times. If someone starts freaking out and making a grab for the door, it could be catastrophic.

yes the man speaking on the radio talked about the Hatch when he went down 20 years ago and how he would have stopped anyone from trying to escape through the hatch

BookLover7777 · 21/06/2023 08:46

OvaHere · 21/06/2023 08:43

They're still human and at risk of things like sunk cost fallacy etc. like anyone else. See also JFK Jr's ill fated flight to Martha's Vineyard. They should never have flown in those circumstances but he was over confident and it cost his life and that of his wife and her sister. It happens.

I'd argue it's the opposite. Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Richard Branson – all idiots with money prepared to risk their lives for thrills.

Igneococcus · 21/06/2023 08:47

If someone starts freaking out and making a grab for the door,

You would need superhuman strength to open a door against the pressure. pressure increases by one atmosphere every ten meters the sub goes down.

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:47

BookLover7777 · 21/06/2023 08:46

I'd argue it's the opposite. Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Richard Branson – all idiots with money prepared to risk their lives for thrills.

Quite. That's what money does to you. Makes you deadened to the normal thrills and spills of everyday life.

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