'I have no problem with trans women using women's toilets'

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https://metro.co.uk/2023/06/19/i-have-no-issue-with-trans-women-using-the-loos-im-in-you-shouldnt-either-18978018/#metro-comments-container

Just seen this article and had to share - I can't believe the hateful language used by the author:

'High profile people, who I consider transphobic, like some politicians and former role models – who aren’t even worthy of the term ‘TERF’ (meaning trans exclusionary radical feminist) as it has ‘feminist’ in the name, and that they most certainly are not – have made it their mission to stoke a panic over trans people'.

It's estimated that less than 1% of transwomen have genital surgery. Any ideas on how you'd go about restricting access of the women's toilets to only genitally mutilated men Blossomtoes?

It makes perfect sense.

We know they aren't women, because if they were, nobody would be bending over backwards to accommodate them.

It makes perfect sense. Not sure why you're so stressed at the idea that someone would say you're not a woman (not that she said that) when you're busy telling loads of women that they're not women any more.

Yes.

Good. You can use the men's lavatories then.

I’m doing nothing of the sort. Although frankly if this thread’s anything to go by I’m not sure I’m particularly enamoured to be a woman.

So true

new tits yes
hormones yes
voice modification yes
hair removal yes
new “vagina” yes
face feminisation surgery yes
adams apple reduction yes
empathy and kindness awareness course ( mansplaining and manspreading modules included) WTF???? Are you mad? What sort of a woman do you think I am?

Do away with all the urinals and make every toilet a single fully enclosed cubicle (none of this gap under the door nonsense, and walls that dont go up to the ceiling) and voila!!! All toilets can be unisex and everyone can be happy!

Can have a communal sink area, that is also the waiting area.

It doesn't really matter how you feel about being a woman, it'll always be true, even with surgery and hormones. Just like transwomen are always men.

Yes you are. You're telling us "women" is a word for people who share a certain identity, rather than a word for female people.

That means most of us aren't included within that new definition because we don't identify as anything.

So if your elderly mother uses one and has a stroke while she's on the toilet, how long before someone finds her?

And if a man follows you into one, locks the door and sexually assaults you, will anyone notice and sound the alarm?

Exactly

And sometimes hidden cameras

Well said!

WTF?! So no one should have any privacy because you're afraid of ghosts?!

Surely, if you're waiting for your elderly mother, and she doesn't come out in due time, you'll try to find ou what has happened.

And how exactly is a man following me into the toilet?? Because if it's busy, there will be people outside. And if it's not, the guy could follow me into the ladies just as well.

Also, LOADS of public toilets have the exact cubicles I'm talking about. Fully enclosed and private. Can confirm I have not been locked in one by a man 🙄🙄

What are you struggling with, exactly?

Nobody said anything about ghosts.

If someone has a stroke, time is of the essence. My husband's 94 year old grandmother had one but because she was with family at the time they called an ambulance immediately and she was in the hospital within 30 minutes. She has made a good recovery. If she had been lying on the floor of an enclosed toilet for hours before anyone found her it would have been a different story.

As for being followed by a guy, if the toilet is fully enclosed and he's allowed in the surrounding area, he only needs seconds to follow you into the toilet and lock you in there. That's much easier than if he has to go into a women's toilet where he isn't allowed to be and hope that there is only one woman in there, and that nobody else comes in while he's busy attacking her.

I know these toilets already exist in many places. They are less safe for women than single sex toilets with regular cubicles.

Why would this make me happy? I'd rather jot use a toilet regularly used my men at all. Unless a lot or cleaning takes place! I certainly don't want to leave my cubicle to find a man washing right beside me. Separate toilets for men and women is just fine.

Just imagine though, if we were to have cubicles that could accommodate man sized women they would be designed so much better, you know, doors that open outwards, room to get in and shut the door without having to brush at least one leg against the toilet, perhaps room for a hook on the door, maybe enough actual space for one of those sanitary bins that are usually wedged between the wall and loo making it impossible to clean the floor properly etc. Utopia!

I think you are showing very well how women can have nothing in common except biology. I don't share your ethics. I'm not a far right woman hater. I believe in sexism. I believe in breaking down gender stereotypes. No reason why you'd think like me just because we both have female bodies.

However if the word woman actually means anything other than biology, you ate indeed telling loads of women that they're not women. You really can't have it both ways.

What is so magical about this piece of paper? You can't change sex. Neither the existence of the GRA or people calling me vile have ever convinced me that you can. Find another solution for vulnerable males.

What kind of due diligence do you think actually goes into granting a GRC? They've been granted to extremely dangerous rapists. The number of dangerous men with GRC is estimated to be disproportionately high for the few thousand people that it is.

Probably very little?

None.