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Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect part 2

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IClaudine · 13/06/2023 08:56

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StormShadow · 18/06/2023 09:52

Rhondaa · 18/06/2023 09:43

Tut tut Bernard Jenkin. I won't link to the Mail but how very silly of him to sit on a committee telling Johnson off, when his very own wife had allegedly sent a WhatsApp message inviting people to birthday drinks when indoor mixing was not allowed.

Potentially quite a dangerous story for the Tories, that one. I suspect that might be why it's not had more traction, actually. Any discussion of Partygate is bad for them, and Jenkins is a pretty true blue Conservative. The risk to the party is it comes off as another Tory rulebreaking story. They won't want that. I realise this relates to his wife, not Jenkins himself, but it won't take much to blur the two.

Rhondaa · 18/06/2023 09:54

And more in the news about impartial Sue Gray and if her new job is appropriate. All these finger waving folk should have maybe stopped to think now and again.

DuncinToffee · 18/06/2023 09:56

@Janiie I believe everything I post

Boris Johnson is a liar

ChezzD · 18/06/2023 09:57

Cornettoninja · 16/06/2023 17:02

It doesn’t sound like there’s much point trying to explain much to you tbh. Your standards are clearly very, very low.

I don't need anything explaining. I just see all main party politics as different sides of the same coin. Also that theyre all a bunch of liers and always have been. My point is not about the behaviour of one politician, more the fact it just so happens bojo got singled out.

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2023 09:57

The country doesn't need Janiies approval or permission to accept the reports finding.

And things are moving on. I am suspecting that parties and drinks and the odd bit of lockdown levity will disappear into the rear view as Johnsons more serious crimes are investigated and prosecuted. Starting with the fact that he stole classified information for personal use in his notebooks and slipped his security detail when Foreign secretary to advise a Russian spy on how far the UK investigation into the Salisbury poisoning was progressing. Janiie may be happy to support a traitor. My principles don't go that far.

IClaudine · 18/06/2023 09:58

The stories about Jenkin and Gray don't change the fact that a serving PM repeatedly and deliberately lied to Parliament.

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Rhondaa · 18/06/2023 09:59

DuncinToffee · 18/06/2023 09:56

@Janiie I believe everything I post

Boris Johnson is a liar

In your opinion and the opinion of a committee chaired by a vocal critic of Johnson, with a member who allegedly attended a drinks party when it was not allowed and the opinion of Sue Gray who is trying to insert herself into the Labour Party.

Credibility is all a bit shaky.

IClaudine · 18/06/2023 10:00

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2023 09:57

The country doesn't need Janiies approval or permission to accept the reports finding.

And things are moving on. I am suspecting that parties and drinks and the odd bit of lockdown levity will disappear into the rear view as Johnsons more serious crimes are investigated and prosecuted. Starting with the fact that he stole classified information for personal use in his notebooks and slipped his security detail when Foreign secretary to advise a Russian spy on how far the UK investigation into the Salisbury poisoning was progressing. Janiie may be happy to support a traitor. My principles don't go that far.

It's all very pound shop Trump, isn't it? Bet Johnson is hoping for the gammons to storm Parliament on Monday.

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StormShadow · 18/06/2023 10:00

Far be it from be to stop my enemy from making a mistake, but the Tories really don't seem to have clocked that the Sue Grey stuff isn't helping them, do they? It's never in their interests for Partygate to be the focus of public attention, and it's not harming Labour because length of time between civil service and party political appointments is a pretty difficult story to get the public interested in.

DuncinToffee · 18/06/2023 10:00

Rhondaa · 18/06/2023 09:59

In your opinion and the opinion of a committee chaired by a vocal critic of Johnson, with a member who allegedly attended a drinks party when it was not allowed and the opinion of Sue Gray who is trying to insert herself into the Labour Party.

Credibility is all a bit shaky.

No it isn't

Boris Johnson lied to Parliament and ran away.

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2023 10:01

IClaudine · 18/06/2023 09:58

The stories about Jenkin and Gray don't change the fact that a serving PM repeatedly and deliberately lied to Parliament.

That's yesterdays news. And accepted into the history now. Although I bet some people would love for it to stay "current", given what's down the line.

What was it people once said ? Oh yes, "You lost. Get over it.". Seems fitting really.

Oh, and another by-election coming up soon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65941710

David Warburton, date of pic unknown

David Warburton quits as MP, triggering another by-election

The resignation will leave Rishi Sunak potentially facing four by-elections in the coming months.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65941710

IClaudine · 18/06/2023 10:01

Rhondaa · 18/06/2023 09:59

In your opinion and the opinion of a committee chaired by a vocal critic of Johnson, with a member who allegedly attended a drinks party when it was not allowed and the opinion of Sue Gray who is trying to insert herself into the Labour Party.

Credibility is all a bit shaky.

Remember this?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/bbc-question-time-audience-deliver-29538533

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DuncinToffee · 18/06/2023 10:04

Michael Gove will abstain on Monday

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1670347642524631041?s=20

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2023 10:04

It's never in their interests for Partygate to be the focus of public attention,

Unless there are worse things in the closet.

I'm a little annoyed with myself now. It should have been obvious why the Tories have desperate to supress partygate in a "not really" way. It's because it's conveniently keeping much more explosive stories from the public view.

The summer recess can't come soon enough for Rish! - much less chance of decent news coverage during the silly season.

Rhondaa · 18/06/2023 10:05

'It's all very pound shop Trump, isn't it? Bet Johnson is hoping for the gammons to storm Parliament on Monday.'

Pound shop Trump. Oh how very original.

Gammon is a really offensive and racist term. I'm quite surprised you'd lower yourself. Mind I've seen the 'storm Parliament' 'jokes' on Twatter so perhaps you're just jumping on the bandwagon.

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2023 10:05

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2023 10:01

That's yesterdays news. And accepted into the history now. Although I bet some people would love for it to stay "current", given what's down the line.

What was it people once said ? Oh yes, "You lost. Get over it.". Seems fitting really.

Oh, and another by-election coming up soon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65941710

I guess he's toast then.

Alexandra2001 · 18/06/2023 10:05

Rhondaa · 18/06/2023 09:59

In your opinion and the opinion of a committee chaired by a vocal critic of Johnson, with a member who allegedly attended a drinks party when it was not allowed and the opinion of Sue Gray who is trying to insert herself into the Labour Party.

Credibility is all a bit shaky.

If the committees findings were not unanimous and Sunak etc coming out to defend Bojo, then you'd have a point.

funny how it becomes a "party" when it suits you lol!

StormShadow · 18/06/2023 10:06

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2023 10:04

It's never in their interests for Partygate to be the focus of public attention,

Unless there are worse things in the closet.

I'm a little annoyed with myself now. It should have been obvious why the Tories have desperate to supress partygate in a "not really" way. It's because it's conveniently keeping much more explosive stories from the public view.

The summer recess can't come soon enough for Rish! - much less chance of decent news coverage during the silly season.

Are you getting at the national security stuff here? Lebedev rumours etc.

BunnyBettChetwynnd · 18/06/2023 10:06

Rhondaa · 18/06/2023 09:59

In your opinion and the opinion of a committee chaired by a vocal critic of Johnson, with a member who allegedly attended a drinks party when it was not allowed and the opinion of Sue Gray who is trying to insert herself into the Labour Party.

Credibility is all a bit shaky.

“People have known that Boris Johnson lies for 30 years,” the writer and academic Rory Stewart, a former Conservative member of Parliament, “He’s probably the best liar we’ve ever had as a prime minister. He knows a hundred different ways to lie.”

When he was editor of the Spectator magazine, he lied to the owner, Conrad Black, promising not to serve in Parliament while working at the magazine. (He did.)

When he was first elected to Parliament, he lied to his constituents when he promised to quit his Spectator job. (He didn’t.)

As a legislator, he lied to the party leader, Michael Howard, and to the news media when he publicly declared that he had not had an affair with a writer for the magazine, nor gotten her pregnant and paid for her abortion. (He had done all of that.)

cakeorwine · 18/06/2023 10:06

Janie may not realise how she feels about the events in Downing Street but plenty of people do know how they feel.

4 by elections coming up.

It's going to be an interesting few months.

IClaudine · 18/06/2023 10:08

Rhondaa · 18/06/2023 10:05

'It's all very pound shop Trump, isn't it? Bet Johnson is hoping for the gammons to storm Parliament on Monday.'

Pound shop Trump. Oh how very original.

Gammon is a really offensive and racist term. I'm quite surprised you'd lower yourself. Mind I've seen the 'storm Parliament' 'jokes' on Twatter so perhaps you're just jumping on the bandwagon.

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DuncinToffee · 18/06/2023 10:08

Another one covering his back, wonder if he is pointing to Sunak?

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1670344007828865024?s=20

"I was aware of the parties in Downing Street. I didn't attend any of the parties. One of the reasons I chose to leaving Downing Street is because I didn't want to be a part of some of the things I was seeing."

Samuel Kasumu, former Boris Johnson advisor

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2023 10:17

StormShadow · 18/06/2023 10:06

Are you getting at the national security stuff here? Lebedev rumours etc.

Let's put it this way:

You are Rish!

Which story would you rather the country was talking about ?

And it's no fucking "rumour" that Boris Johnson deliberately slipped his police protection to meet a known Russian agent. That is a fact. So without officials present he could brief a known Russian agent on the UKs investigation into the murder on UK soil of a UK citizen by a Russian spy team.

And without officials present he can't say he didn't.

Well he can.

But he's a liar.

DuncinToffee · 18/06/2023 10:21

Says it all

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