Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect part 2

[IClaudine]

New thread!

Tories don't give a fcuk about drownings, they gave us Brexit, which meant refugees do not fear being sent back to mainland Europe and we don't have any influence over the French or the EU, then we made sure we detached ourselves from EU law enforcement.

Well, exactly. Brexit gave us this crisis. And people were told that a hard Brexit would lead to this and still voted for the Tories. So if you voted Conservative - congratulations, you voted to have the refugee crisis. It's on you.

They knew what they were voting for, as we were so often told.

I can't wait for the day when I never have to hear that repulsive Goebbels-esque soundbite ever again.

BTW @Janiie , how did you manage to see what went on in NHS staffrooms during covid?

Indeed. And not just the Tories.

When Tony Blair stood down as PM in 2007, Gordon Brown’s position was so strong that him becoming the next Labour leader, and thereby Prime Minister, was seen as inevitable. Blair himself nominated Brown and no senior Labour MP was prepared to stand against him. John McDonnell stood as the Socialist Campaign Group’s (ie the Left’s) candidate but failed to secure enough MPs’ nominations to get on the ballot paper. Brown was therefore elected unopposed and appointed PM by Queen Elizabeth.
British Prime Ministers are appointed, not elected. This is basic stuff which really should be taught in schools.

I expect they were all off their faces.

Wonder if this looks like a party for @Janiie or is still not a "party"?

..and what sanction would she like handed out, she did after all, call for disciplinary action the nurses or did a short but sober dance video.

I suspect more and more is going to come out about parties at no. 10, because that is the way Johnson ran things - and it's no excuse to say someone else was nominally in charge of the people working there, because it's perfectly obvious that they were operating that way with his full approval and participation. People who got fined, or who are conscious that they were taking infections home, or who just have a conscience, no longer have any reason to keep quiet.

The same will apply for his uselessness and mendacity in all other areas of government, just as we are seeing in relation to his mayoralty. Hard times ahead for his diehard supporters.

But Johnson wasn't there so it doesn't matter, he is still perfectly innocent.

By the way, has anyone watched the 11 minute clip on iPlayer of Johnson answering questions at the Privileges committee? He can't give a straight answer to any of the questions - not even to whether he actually attended the party they show him a picture of himself at.

I have a message for one of the regular Johnson defenders on this thread. I have a feeling you don't genuinely believe all of what you post. If true, please stop doing it. There are people on this thread and in the real world whose lives were deeply affected because they observed the rules and guidance. Some people are still dealing with the after effects of lockdown. You are trivialising that.

If, on the other hand, you do genuinely believe what you post...

You make an interesting point. Because of how many of these events there were and the general culture of not giving a fuck, there were a lot of these events and there's potentially quite a bit more evidence still out there.

This has been released at a specific, damaging time for Johnson. Obviously he wasn't at this event, but it's going to forment more anger about the parties, the lying and the way in which the Met handled the issue. It's liable to lead to more pressure on Tory MPs to vote for the committee recommendations tomorrow, rather than abstaining.

I also wondered if the person who released it might be pissed off that they didn't get a peerage whilst others did, so has embarrassed two of them here.

Well, I'm either psychic or I know people who work in the nhs. Which is most likely do you think?

'Wonder if this looks like a party for @Janiie or is still not a "party"?'

Oh, this was investigated by the Met and no crime was found to be committed. Just like Durham constabulary that is all folk are interested in you see. Also, as a pp said Johnson is not present.

'have a message for one of the regular Johnson defenders on this thread. I have a feeling you don't genuinely believe all of what you post. If true, please stop doing it'

If this little message is for me I believe everything I post.

'This has been released at a specific, damaging time for Johnson'

He's left, resigned, gone! I would suggest a specific damaging time would've been 2 years ago tbh.

Oh, this was investigated by the Met and no crime was found to be committed. Just like Durham constabulary that is all folk are interested in you see. Also, as a pp said Johnson is not present

Was it? it was investigated by the Tories and 2 people sanctioned but still got an honour.
Anyway, i didn't ask that, is it a party ? and Bojo, at the time was head of the Tory party

I believe there are calls for it to be investigated by the Met.

I guess though you wont answer and will continue to defend the Tory party and thats all good, because the more you do, the more of an arse you look and the more people who might have supported the Tories will turn away from them.... happy days!

How do you feel about the events that went on in Downing Street during lockdown?

You know the stories of what people missed out on - heartbreaking stories but all people trying to do the right thing and to reduce the risk of transmission so "not socialising or mixing unnecessarily " so the chances of transmission were reduced.

How does it make you feel to see what happened and to hear about the unnecessary socialising that went on? I know there was necessary mixing but there seems to have been a lot of unnecessary socialising as well

Well, I'm either psychic or I know people who work in the nhs. Which is most likely do you think?

No need to be snarky @janiie. Your words were:

I've said repeatedly you should've seen <some not all> nhs staffrooms

So I assumed you yourself had seen <some not all> nhs staffrooms. But you now admit you hadn't. Thanks for finally clearing that up. It took a while, but we got there.

And there's a vote tomorrow on whether to, amongst other things, deny him a members pass. He's not very happy about the whole thing, you might have heard.

I agree there are other times in the past two and a half years when this would've been damaging too, of course. The Tories have furnished us with many such moments. For example, when this incident was investigated by the Met it was only the photos that were available. Perhaps they'd have taken a different view if they'd had access to the video, who knows? But whoever released it chose this weekend.

@Janiie has to be working for the Labour party, surely?

We need his coffin nailed very firmly shut, though. Don't want him resurrected and running for Mayor of London.

I dunno, if he splits the right wing vote that would be pretty funny.

That's true. It would be great to see him humiliated.

@IClaudine Yep it's intetesting@Janiie stated a few days ago that she didn't particularly like or support Johnson but didn't think all this was very fair-- for someone who says they have no skin in the game @Janiie you seem to be very very over invested. The fact is it all stinks and it looks very very bad. This wasn't just a pronto after work glass of fizz and sandwiches- it's catered event- see the silver serving dishes etc. if you areTory PR I would back off quietly because the more support you offer, the worse it looks-

Think you're mixing me up with someone else I do indeed like and support him. This event was fully investigated by the Met and no fpns were issued. That's what counts you see. Like buffets and booze elsewhere..

'How do you feel about the events that went on in Downing Street during lockdown? You know the stories of what people missed out on - heartbreaking stories but all people trying to do the right thing and to reduce the risk of transmission so "not socialising or mixing unnecessarily " so the chances of transmission were reduced.'

Show me a picture of any one of them visiting ill relatives when we couldn’t (to protect vulnerable people and reduce risk) , going to care homes when we couldn't (ditto). You are comparing 2 entirely different things.

Lol Moving the goal posts... Tories visiting sick relatives would mean they have a heart, so the only reason a Tory visits some one ill is to check on the Inheritance.

Show me a picture of any one of them visiting ill relatives when we couldn’t (to protect vulnerable people and reduce risk) , going to care homes when we couldn't (ditto). You are comparing 2 entirely different things

No - I am asking you how you feel about the events in Downing Street given the stories of what people could and couldn't do during that period.

You know what people did and didn't do. You know what we were told to do by politiicians at the podium.

So a simple question - how does it make you feel to see and hear about the events in Downing Street.

Tut tut Bernard Jenkin. I won't link to the Mail but how very silly of him to sit on a committee telling Johnson off, when his very own wife had allegedly sent a WhatsApp message inviting people to birthday drinks when indoor mixing was not allowed.