Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect part 2

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New thread!

Let's hope that come the next election beige is the new sky blue.

A start? After 13 years? Blimey.

Quite.

I also think it's very interesting when you look at Bravermans latest big up for a local on her FB page. She's right - they have done great things for the community.

I expect if we ask nicely Clav will get us the link.

It looks like she is abstaining from commenting on Johnson lying to Parliament

That's a shit for brains take. The Tories have implemented policies that ensured those smugglers could flourish, made the business model incredibly lucrative. Frankly it's the sort of help they normally reserve for donors and oligarchs that Boris Johnson is trying to butter up.

Frankly it's the sort of help they normally reserve for donors and oligarchs that Boris Johnson is trying to butter up

Maybe we should keep an eye out in case Boris is given a job by the Albanian Mail?🤔

Yep. PM Sunak said that a woman is whatever Boris Johnson says, fuck me my eyes rolled so far back. But hey, Tory voters lap that shit up. Look at the number of people claiming that Boris "spoke to them". No, he just told you all the lies you wanted to hear.

They love being lied to.

Leaked footage shows lockdown-breaking party at Conservative Party Headquarters, attended by two figures included on Boris Johnson's resignation honours

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/first-ever-partygate-video-revealed-30259486

Why do you think ministers are 'unelected'? Don't you understand how MPs are voted for and therefore end up in the HOC?

Who elected Sunak to be Prime Minister? His constituents elected him to be their MP, but who elected him to be PM?

Times reporting that Johnsons notebooks alarmed the security services as they are packed to the gunnels with classified information. Reminding us that Johnson wasn't security cleared when he was Foreign Secretary and overseeing MI6.

Seem we have quite the mini Trump wannabee here.

"Oh what a circus, Oh what a show ..."

Blimey, is this Cummings having kept some stuff back do we think?

Given the quality of todays column, they wouldn't have him.

Not quite sure how I should feel about Paul Dacre having been right royally shafted by Boris when the Mail is making cuts elsewhere. If only someone had warned him that Boris was a lazy and unreliable.

We have had 3 general elections since 2015 and some people still evidently don’t have the even most basic understanding of how British Parliamentary democracy works. Sunak is a Prime Minister, not a fucking President.

You're right, you don't have a basic understanding of how British Parliamentary democracy works. Sunak's own party membership voted for him NOT to be Prime Minister. And yet there he is, unelected, where all his predecessors were elected by their parties.

Sunak was elected leader of the Conservative Party according to its own rules. He was the only declared candidate who met the threshold of nominations by Tory MPs as specified by the committee of the 1922 committee who set the rules for that election. There was no membership election because there was only one candidate who went forward to that stage of the contest.

I meant ‘by the executive of the 1922 committee’, obv.

TBF - we may not have a President but all too often, especially recently, it's been the Leaders who are the ones who are deemed to be the reason a party got elected / or not elected.

There was the Johnson / Corbyn factor in the recent election.

Milliband and Cameron - although not as much as with Johnson and Corbyn.

I know we don't elect a Prime Minister but I wonder if Sunak feels if he has the mandate to be there.

I honestly thought that was a spoof video, like some shit reconstruction the Mirror had commissioned. It’s real.

Me too. So it's actually really real?

Why would they film it?

Did they not realise that it might come out?

People sometimes surprise me with how stupid they are

It was taken at that event at Conservative HQ with Nick Candy in the photo. That is a very distinctive knitted jumper.

Safe passage affords a much quicker remedy. They could take away the market for people traffickers tomorrow by putting that in place.

Remind us , how much immigration has been stopped by the Rwanda plan so far?

I've only just watched it now, and it actually looks like it would if The Thick Of It did a special Partygate episode.

Tories don't give a fcuk about drownings, they gave us Brexit, which meant refugees do not fear being sent back to mainland Europe and we don't have any influence over the French or the EU, then we made sure we detached ourselves from EU law enforcement.

Save your crocodile tears please.

They certainly weren't all elected by their parties. The Conservatives quite commonly deal with leadership matters solely within the parliamentary party. That's how Theresa May got the gig in 2016. No Conservative party member could have the reasonable expectation that they'd be able to choose the leader themselves, because that's not how their party constitution works. It allows MPs to have a lot of power.

The idea that someone has been elected more legitimately if it's by the full party membership than by the MPs is odd anyway. At least MPs have been elected, and the possibility exists that they can be held accountable for their decisions.