Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect part 2

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New thread!

I was always interested to know what the rules were and the risk assessment was for Downing Street.

Businesses were asked to do a risk assessment for their workplace.

Maybe they forgot?

So why did your precious introduce rules that prevented people in all but one workplace in the country from eating with colleagues at work and having parties at work?

What about the other members? HH, as the chair, did not vote (unless a deciding vote was needed - I don’t think it was). There was a Tory majority on the committee.

There was plenty of opportunity for Johnson to request a change of chair or to make representations about her impartiality or otherwise.

Was it ‘just’ the choice of chair that concerns you? Was there something about the mechanism, or do you think that that was ok?

It's weird that Johnson had no problems with the committee or composition initially then suddenly changed his tune once he found out what the verdict was, isn't it? Wonder what could've made him change his mind.

Live YouGov poll right now.

82% to 11% think he misled Parliament.
69% to 17% think he got a fair hearing
12% think 90 days is too harsh, 22% think it's about right, 60% think it's too lenient.

Obviously, this live sample is not regularised or weighted yet. ~AA

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1669329254973157377?t=VVkgCcS8wpMlY84l4GuBNA&s=19

Rees Mogg not happy

"The the privileges committee’s findings on Boris Johnson “is in danger of making the House of Commons look foolish”, Jacob Rees Mogg, the former business secretary, has said.
In an interview with GB News, the Johnson ultra-loyalist slammed the inquiry’s report, which he said contained “no real sanction”, while its recommendation that Johnson’s be suspended for 90 days was “merely trying to make a point”.
Rees-Mogg said that the report had failed to address Johnson’s allegations that “most of the members of the committee” had already expressed deeply prejudiced remarks about the former prime minister’s guilt before they had seen the evidence and they should have recused themselves. He said:

No he fucking doesn’t. He was leading the country. If anything he should be held to a higher standard than everyone else. If he breaks the rules then how on earth does he have the credibility or authority to tell everyone else not to?

Poor Rees-Mogg. I am sure nanny will do her utmost to dry his tears.

Maybe she'll make him something nice for his tea to cheer him up

Does Mogg ever look in a mirror?

"The the privileges committee’s findings on Boris Johnson “is in danger of making the House of Commons look foolish”, Jacob Rees Mogg.

Heaven forfend that anyone should ever do that.

This should be giving Conservative members pause for thought. It won't but it should.

He has no reflection...

He's not my 'precious', no need for childish comments.

People were allowed to eat in all workplaces, as I've said repeatedly you should've seen <some not all> nhs staffrooms. Remember the dancing videos? Well imagine that with takeaways thrown in.

How did you see those staffroom, janiie?

I suspect it and the groundswell of opinion it reflects probably will, for most of them. It's just they're not the ones currently making the most noise.

Did Johnson lie to Parliament?

The aim was to reduce the risk of transmission.

So at what point does sitting with colleagues for lunch in a canteen (essential for work as people need to eat during the day) cross the boundary into a non essential event - such as a leaving do, birthday party or Wine Friday?

I take it @Janiie understands the principles of risk assessment?

ok - we can't really stop people having lunch together and we can tolerate that but we don't need people having non essential meetings, or events such as birthday parties ,leaving dos and Wine Fridays.

JRM was his usual patronising self on R4 lunchtime news too. Explaining that it's fine to denounce the parliamentary committee because everyone knows that, like everything else, parliament isn't "Perfect". How funny coming from the man whose stock answer is to explain that any journalist's challenge to the government is usually a result of their lack of understanding of the way parliament works.

It certainly didn't work perfectly when he flew up to tell the Queen it was being prorogued. As it turned out, unlawfully.

I seem to remember him criticising Lady Hale funnily enough.

If there is no need for childish comments, and you have shown no interest in seriously engaging with the matter being discussed, where does that leave us?

Why were so many politicians and advisors catching Covid if they were working safely? Keir Starmer and Chris Whitty for two?
I wonder how people will view this period in 50 years time. In Italy Berlusconi had bunga bunga parties and survived and Johnson had a bit of cake and was destroyed politically. I say good riddance to BJ but all this hooha is ridiculous. It's still all about Brexit isn't it.

Have you read the report Dexra? Cake isn't mentioned.

My mistake- Derxa.

@derxa It would be nice to have a thorough enquiry into the lies that Johnson and others told about Brexit as well wouldn't it?