Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect

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Just breaking now on BBC.

Same day as Nadine.

To be fair, it is believable that morale was very low in Downing Street. They did after all have to work with Johnson and Cummings.

Well its all a bit of a game isn't it and jolly japes with the boys.

Why would we expect someone who has never taken responsibility for anything in their life to suddenly change?

Yeah it is actually entirely plausible that Johnson and the people around him were either stupid or driven to drink.

What disappoints me isn't Boris' low standards when it comes to professional conduct, it's that so many people on here share those low standards. It doesn't bode well for the UK.

How ridiculous. I don't think many people see BJ as a professional role model. The tik tok nurse dance routines didn't go down well with me. Any comments on them?

@derxa, have any of those nurses lied to Parliament about what they were doing? If not, it's totally irrelevant.

We're talking about behaviour in the workplace. Nurses don't sit in parliament.

We're talking about Boris Johnson standing down as an MP.

People mostly stuck to the actual law though, what you are describing did not involve breaking the law in the way that Johson and Co did.

I am not sure what the funeral rules were in Sept 2021 when Mrs Johnson died, but of course he couldn't have broken the law then, because everyone would have seen, unlike the secret partying.

Were they breaking the law?

There weren't any covid regulations relating to funerals in England in September 2021. Not even Boris Johnson could pull off breaking restrictions when they don't exist. The only provisions that could've affected funerals then were wider non-specific ones, like isolation rules.

When you are standing in front of the nation telling them that schools are going to close/weddings are cancelled/people need to isolate for weeks etc. etc. whatever the personal cost, that is the job. That is leadership.

To be honest, I think he was more successful than others might have been because people who would have usually ignored restrictions took them more seriously because of the usually libertarian messenger.

Now it turns out he was just reading an autocue, and was ignoring restrictions all along (“suckers!” being the bit he didn’t speak out loud at the time).

Probably not but I thought their actions were disrespectful. People were dying on their wards and there they were prancing around.

pointythings · Yesterday 21:39
Yep, I recall people posting on here saying you were only allowed to buy essential foodstuffs, not anything you'd consider a treat. That rule didn't exist. If it was in the shop, you could buy it.”

We had to rely on home deliveries and all of the supermarkets offered their full ranges.

You're quite right. Johnson is by nature a rule breaker and the wrong person to deliver that message.

I think Pointy is wrong that many people have those same low standards, although it is clear that a vocal minority do.

May I be so bold as to suggest that Johnson is the wrong person.

We don't really need the rest of the sentence.

I actually don't have a problem with the dance routines because I know what people working on wards we're going through. They were already working in close quarters. Some were living away from their families to keep them safe. The situations aren't comparable.

Yep. Work colleagues are work. Though tbh the tik tok dances were wholly disrespectful and inappropriate and their line managers (not the prime minister) should've put a stop to it but from an infection point of view they were in each others company all day anyway.

Way to miss the point, Janiie.

Those videos show that work colleagues can have some fun at their place of work without breaking the law.

Whatever your opinion of the videos, they weren't doing anything illegal or lied about it.

The nurses weren't breaking the law, Johnson was. It's that simple.

The difference is that Johnson introduced the law and as we all know laws one cannot be expected to know anything about or follow laws that you have introduced, they only apply to other people.

People couldn't visit their dying relatives. It was a highly sensitive and emotional time, I can't believe you think NHS 'having fun' filming their silly dances whilst at work was appropriate just because it wasn't illegal. They seemed to be more like parties than soggy sarnies in the cabinet office that's for sure. Get some work done for goodness sake.

Clearly @Janiie is clueless about what life was like on the ward during COVID. You can't argue with utter ignorance.