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Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect

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sunnydaytoday0 · 09/06/2023 20:09

Just breaking now on BBC.

Same day as Nadine.

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Crikeyalmighty · 11/06/2023 12:36

@Clavinova well she was wrong too- but hopefully this is people who approached her and who she passed on - they ALL need to understand due diligence and tendering and so do the bloody civil servants if these things were not checked out. God forbid any of them worked in private business dealing with 'goods'

DuncinToffee · 11/06/2023 12:36

Clavinova · 11/06/2023 12:34

DuncinToffee

See - Janiie gets it.

Well explain it to me then

Rhondaa · 11/06/2023 12:39

Clavinova · 11/06/2023 12:34

DuncinToffee

See - Janiie gets it.

Grin

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

SerendipityJane · 11/06/2023 12:39

Speaking of frenzied hysteria, as Janiie was, I see Farage is talking about insurgency and "up to" 10 MPs ready to join (presumably) Refrom

Rhondaa · 11/06/2023 12:41

'Well explain it to me then'

It's been explained! With a handy link to the article. Someone suggested Wheeler got him to back Brexit. That's it. That's the story. Jesus.

ilovesooty · 11/06/2023 12:44

Notonthestairs · 11/06/2023 12:26

Wonder whether we will ever get that £100 million back from Mone and associates.
Or whether the Conservatives will ever remove the whip from her.

I think we know the answer to that.

Isn't she still on LOA from the Lords?

Notonthestairs · 11/06/2023 12:53

"Isn't she still on LOA from the Lords?"

I think she is on holiday. But I'm sure she is fully cooperating with the National Crime Agency.

jgw1 · 11/06/2023 12:53

Rhondaa · 11/06/2023 11:09

Jgw1. He has gone now calm your jets and do stop going on about 'parties'. Maybe some kind of soothing music may help? A sit out in the sun?

@Janiie how do you know the previous poster was a he?

The OP is about someone called Boris Johnson, maybe you have heard of him. He is best known for having broken laws around parties that he himself introduced, and has now had to resign as a result of lying about said parties. Of note is that millions of children managed to survive without parties at the same time.
If you don't like discussing parties, I suggest avoiding threads about Big Dog.

Kiwano · 11/06/2023 12:57

Clavinova · 11/06/2023 11:44

Kiwano
Could it be that having Prime Ministerial involvement would be desirable in order to keep a handle on those plans, policies and capability at an early stage in a different type of pandemic?

That might be the recommendation going forward - but since Boris Johnson chaired a Cobra meeting on 2 March 2020 and the WHO didn't declare Covid-19 to be a pandemic until 11 March 2020, your use of the word 'pandemic' to describe the period before 11 March 2020 would appear to be somewhat premature. I remind you of the tweet up thread;

Devi Sridhar - 3:45 PM · Feb 17, 2020
WHO clearly saying it is NOT calling #COVID19 a pandemic b/c majority of cases are in China & majority of cases outside of China have direct link to China. @ DrMikeRyan #factsnotfear

(Devi Sridhar became Nicola Sturgeon's Covid adviser)

BunnyBettChetwynnd
Who attends a COBRA meeting?
Prime Minister (who chairs the meetings)

"The committee, and the structures that support it (frequently referred to as COBRA in the media), are the UK government’s dedicated crisis management mechanism. While the Home Secretary is the default chair, and the Prime Minister may chair in the most serious of crises, the committee is usually chaired by the lead minister for the type of emergency in question. In the event of an influenza pandemic, the committee would therefore normally be chaired by the Secretary of State for Health."

When you have to split hairs like this, you betray your poverty of resources.

DuncinToffee · 11/06/2023 13:02

Rhondaa · 11/06/2023 12:41

'Well explain it to me then'

It's been explained! With a handy link to the article. Someone suggested Wheeler got him to back Brexit. That's it. That's the story. Jesus.

Ah ok, so basically a non story then, figures

justprance · 11/06/2023 13:04

SerendipityJane · 11/06/2023 11:01

To be fair, when Reic0003 confidently states that "Boris is one of us", it is a statement of fact. You just need to determine the bounding parameters of "us". Which seems to be a cunch of bunts. That's a Boris fact I can believe

(In general, dealing with tories, you need to be very aware of where and how the words "you", "we" and "us" and "ours" get placed into discourse. They very often don't follow the accepted definitions)

This made me roar. Thank you, you hit the nail on the head!

pointythings · 11/06/2023 13:09

I love 'cunch of bunts'. Bet I could get away with using it on FB too.

Clavinova · 11/06/2023 13:14

British Medical Association

That reminds me - last weekend's Guardian included criticism of the government's Covid response from the current president of the British Medical Association, Prof Martin McKee. What the article didn't mention was that Professor McKee was a founding member of Independent Sage;

Professor Martin McKee (May 2020 – Acting Chair Jan 2022 – March 2022)
https://www.independentsage.org/who-are-independent-sage/

Here is Professor McKee in January 2021 arguing that we should follow an elimination strategy like Wuhan;

The virus can be eliminated even after intense local transmission has occurred. Mainland China demonstrated this in Wuhan...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2021/jan/28/all-countries-should-pursue-a-covid-19-elimination-strategy-here-are-16-reasons-why

Going swimmingly well in China now (not) - I can see Covid restrictions like Wuhan being a big-selling point next time (not).

Professor McKee is/was also an anti-Brexit campaigner - so how he thinks we could shut ourselves away for two years like New Zealand, whilst in the single market, is another question (the EU put pressure on Macron to re-open the border to lorry drivers coming from the UK in December 2020);

^NHS for a People's Vote is run by Professor Martin McKee (Programme Director) and Dr Mike Galsworthy (Programme Director).^
https://www.nhsforpv.co.uk/core_team

Zonder · 11/06/2023 13:14

DuncinToffee · 11/06/2023 12:35

So without her, he wouldn't have backed it and get it done?

Not his fault then that brexit is a disaster?

Of course not. Nothing is his fault. It's those pesky advisors telling him wrong. Or maybe it was KS or JC or the whole of the EU. But never BJ.

Clavinova · 11/06/2023 13:20

DuncinToffee
Well explain it to me then

Already explained - I'm getting ready to go out now anyway.

PerkingFaintly · 11/06/2023 13:25

Clavinova · 11/06/2023 13:20

DuncinToffee
Well explain it to me then

Already explained - I'm getting ready to go out now anyway.

You often say things like that, Clav.

So you don't like to post from your phone like most other people, then?

jgw1 · 11/06/2023 13:33

Rhondaa · 11/06/2023 11:13

Doesn't seem like enjoyment to me it still seems like frenzied hysteria tbh. He didn't do this! He didn't do that!

He got us through covid when Sir keir Starmer would still have us in masks social distancing in gardens of no more than 2.

Should we all have partied through covid like Boris did @Janiie ?

jgw1 · 11/06/2023 13:37

Clavinova · 11/06/2023 12:30

DuncinToffee
So what are you saying?

It's not difficult -
[if] Boris deserves the credit for getting Brexit done...

Please lets not list all the benefits of Brexit again.

It gets dull repeating the same posts..
To save anyone else the trouble I have summarised them below.

That is all of them.

jgw1 · 11/06/2023 13:40

PerkingFaintly · 11/06/2023 13:25

You often say things like that, Clav.

So you don't like to post from your phone like most other people, then?

Its hard to copy and paste from the spreadsheet of links on a phone.

Rhondaa · 11/06/2023 13:49

jgw1 · 11/06/2023 12:53

@Janiie how do you know the previous poster was a he?

The OP is about someone called Boris Johnson, maybe you have heard of him. He is best known for having broken laws around parties that he himself introduced, and has now had to resign as a result of lying about said parties. Of note is that millions of children managed to survive without parties at the same time.
If you don't like discussing parties, I suggest avoiding threads about Big Dog.

I was referring Bozo, he has resigned/gone, do keep up.

Yet not one snap of a 'party' has emerged, just folk at work eating. We know some civil servants seemed to get pissed on a fri but as has been said on many other threads their managers should've sorted that out. Kids could indeed celebrate their birthdays, most of the time it was 6 people in the garden anyway. I'm sure a 5 yr old would've been happy with that. Did something happen to you as a child you seem very triggered by the kids birthday party thing. Didn't you ever have one?

'Kids managed to survive without parties' 🙄

DuncinToffee · 11/06/2023 13:54

Rhondaa · 11/06/2023 13:49

I was referring Bozo, he has resigned/gone, do keep up.

Yet not one snap of a 'party' has emerged, just folk at work eating. We know some civil servants seemed to get pissed on a fri but as has been said on many other threads their managers should've sorted that out. Kids could indeed celebrate their birthdays, most of the time it was 6 people in the garden anyway. I'm sure a 5 yr old would've been happy with that. Did something happen to you as a child you seem very triggered by the kids birthday party thing. Didn't you ever have one?

'Kids managed to survive without parties' 🙄

You think Johnson did nothing wrong and didn't lie?

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/06/2023 13:57

It's alright, we can party to our hearts content at Johnson's downfall and his destruction of the Tory Party.🍾💃🍾

jgw1 · 11/06/2023 13:59

Rhondaa · 11/06/2023 13:49

I was referring Bozo, he has resigned/gone, do keep up.

Yet not one snap of a 'party' has emerged, just folk at work eating. We know some civil servants seemed to get pissed on a fri but as has been said on many other threads their managers should've sorted that out. Kids could indeed celebrate their birthdays, most of the time it was 6 people in the garden anyway. I'm sure a 5 yr old would've been happy with that. Did something happen to you as a child you seem very triggered by the kids birthday party thing. Didn't you ever have one?

'Kids managed to survive without parties' 🙄

So in your version of the world, Boris has been found to have lied about parties that he attended that did not exist and that is why he resigned.

If he genuinely believed that he had done no wrong, he would still be an MP, he would contest is innocence in parliament when it came to a vote and if that didn't work in an election if there was a recall petition.

So I think you are saying that Boris has done no wrong, but is frit.

StormShadow · 11/06/2023 14:08

BunnyBettChetwynnd · 11/06/2023 12:25

I her book 'Rake's Progress', Johnson's sister Rachel tells how Johnson had to write an article for the press stating whether he was pro leave or remain.

The day before the article was to be delivered he played tennis with Rachel after which he told her he had no idea which side to come down on.

He decided overnight and came out in favour of leave. Like he tossed a coin.

Even he didn't really believe in leave. He had no strong feelings either way.

That much was obvious. There are true Brexit believers, certainly, but his face the day after the referendum showed he wasn't one of them.

The decision was evidently made based on what he thought was most politically advantageous to him, and in fairness, he certainly pursued his own self interest efficiently there.

IClaudine · 11/06/2023 14:10

Oh, I see the script must have been finalised.

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