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Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect

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sunnydaytoday0 · 09/06/2023 20:09

Just breaking now on BBC.

Same day as Nadine.

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jgw1 · 11/06/2023 10:29

Merrymouse · 11/06/2023 10:26

“@Reic0003 Can you explain why Boris isn't to blame for attending his own birthday party and other illegal events and then lying about it?

Why did millions of children understand why they weren't having a birthday party, but the Prime Minister who introduced that law couldn't cope without his party?”

Johnson’s excuse is stupidity, which does suggest he didn’t have a clue what was going on, good or bad, and other people were doing all the work.

So these "normal voters" that our new friend knows so much about what a leader who is stupid.

I'm not sure what that says about said "normal voters".

Kiwano · 11/06/2023 10:30

Clavinova · 11/06/2023 09:22

Yetisrus
Whilst Boris was having parties (birthday or wine and cheese who actually cares) we were having a socially distanced funeral for a friend, no wake, no sitting next to each other, no celebration of their life, no comforting each other in the Chapel. Why was Boris allowed to party when we weren't?
How anyone can defend the man is beyond me.

Out of interest, what are your feelings towards Keir Starmer? Bearing in mind that Starmer voted in favour of Covid restrictions in the Commons (Corbyn voted against), didn't follow the guidance for constituency visits in Durham (guidance is different from legislation), ate outside, wearing a thick coat the evening before Durham (for the publicity shots) and lied about how many people were with him in the hall (Starmer suggested 'about 6 people', when there were 16 other people there). Both the cheese and wine gathering you mentioned above, and the beer and curry gathering were classed as work meetings and not fined.

Starmer didn't break the law, Johnson did.

Out of interest, what are your feelings about the way Johnson repeatedly broke the law, lied to Parliament, the Queen and the electorate, and appointed a known sex molester to a position of power over juniors?

Kiwano · 11/06/2023 10:34

Boris Johnson has faced a flurry of criticism after it was reported he did not attend five Cobra crisis meetings on the coronavirus as it spread across the world and made inroads into the UK

The Cobra meetings in Exercise Cygnus (2016 pandemic planning exercise) were chaired by the Secretary of State for Health and the Minister for the Cabinet Office- not the prime minister.

Oh, @Clavinova, surely even you can see that whether he was chairing the meetings or not is utterly irrelevant. The point is that he didn't even attend.

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cakeorwine · 11/06/2023 10:35

I'm getting a sense of deja vu here.

Kiwano · 11/06/2023 10:36

Reic0003 · 11/06/2023 09:51

This is really what is wrong with this country. This mindset that a person is to blame. Anyone but more ostentatious the better because then you have like minded sheep who will follow.

Is Johnson not accountable for his actions as Prime Minister and an MP, then? Why not?

Reic0003 · 11/06/2023 10:36

Can you give me one or maybe two reasons to engage in , I was going to say debate but obviously the meaning is lost for the majority of postees, a reasoned discussion? No. Thought not.

ilovesooty · 11/06/2023 10:38

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Oh don't. We've already got Clav and the whataboutery back. 🙄

Kiwano · 11/06/2023 10:38

Reic0003 · 11/06/2023 10:19

You yummiest and mummies dont realise that actually Boris is very popular amongst normal voters. Reason.? He's not a fat cat above us politicians. He says it like it is.

Not according to opinion polls commissioned from a variety of sources.

Kiwano · 11/06/2023 10:39

In fact the best way to keep Boris out of the House of Commons is to make him a Lord. Which could happen in Rishi! resignation honours list ....

He can't be forced to take a peerage. I can see the buffoon making a big thing about wanting to stay a man of the people, all the while knocking back the champagne by the pool at his mansion.

Merrymouse · 11/06/2023 10:40

I'm not sure what that says about said "normal voters".

I think it says they would be a good target for people selling timeshares.

I’m genuinely intrigued by people who still haven’t realised that Johnson is at best a seller of snake oil.

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/06/2023 10:42

Merrymouse · Today 10:40
I'm not sure what that says about said "normal voters".

I think it says they would be a good target for people selling timeshares.

I’m genuinely intrigued by people who still haven’t realised that Johnson is at best a seller of snake oil.”

It’s astonishing, isn’t it?

Kiwano · 11/06/2023 10:42

Reic0003 · 11/06/2023 10:36

Can you give me one or maybe two reasons to engage in , I was going to say debate but obviously the meaning is lost for the majority of postees, a reasoned discussion? No. Thought not.

You're the one who came onto this thread. Tell us what you would like to debate about, but do bear In mind that people are allowed to disagree with you without being abused.

ilovesooty · 11/06/2023 10:43

Reic0003 · 11/06/2023 09:51

This is really what is wrong with this country. This mindset that a person is to blame. Anyone but more ostentatious the better because then you have like minded sheep who will follow.

He is to blame for much of the misery being endured by the country - notably Brexit which was his personal vehicle for self promotion.

Anyway, I thought you weren't staying.

ilovesooty · 11/06/2023 10:44

Reic0003 · 11/06/2023 09:54

Shall we add in Troubles in Ireland, Vietnam war, Korean war? Oh add in the 2nd WW whilst we're there.

Oh dear.

Kiwano · 11/06/2023 10:44

I genuinely don't understand what people claim is charismatic about Johnson. From the moment he dawned on my consciousness he seemed vaguely sleazy to me, and that feeling has only intensified as he worked through the mistresses, had more children, and lied and lied and lied.

Clavinova · 11/06/2023 10:47

Kiwano
Oh, @ Clavinova, surely even you can see that whether he was chairing the meetings or not is utterly irrelevant. The point is that he didn't even attend.

It clearly is relevant - four Cobr (alternative name for Cobra) meetings were not chaired (or attended) by the prime minister in Exercise Cygnus.

SerendipityJane · 11/06/2023 10:47

Kiwano · 11/06/2023 10:39

In fact the best way to keep Boris out of the House of Commons is to make him a Lord. Which could happen in Rishi! resignation honours list ....

He can't be forced to take a peerage. I can see the buffoon making a big thing about wanting to stay a man of the people, all the while knocking back the champagne by the pool at his mansion.

True. Well at least he can be forced to take a prison sentence. And since it's a requirement of standing for election you need to be eligible to vote in an election, that would be the end of that.

Something the USAians should have thought of when they cobbled the Constitution together - it's quite critical that a felon can't stand for president.

Crikeyalmighty · 11/06/2023 10:48

@heartsinvisiblefury I reckon she is Reicc003

ilovesooty · 11/06/2023 10:48

Reic0003 · 11/06/2023 10:19

You yummiest and mummies dont realise that actually Boris is very popular amongst normal voters. Reason.? He's not a fat cat above us politicians. He says it like it is.

I suspect that there are many parents who have good cause to loathe Boris Johnson.

Who are these "normal voters" and how are you defining them?

jgw1 · 11/06/2023 10:48

Reic0003 · 11/06/2023 10:36

Can you give me one or maybe two reasons to engage in , I was going to say debate but obviously the meaning is lost for the majority of postees, a reasoned discussion? No. Thought not.

It seems to me odd to come onto a discussion forum, post and then refuse to discuss anything about those posts.

Each to their own.

SerendipityJane · 11/06/2023 10:49

Crikeyalmighty · 11/06/2023 10:48

@heartsinvisiblefury I reckon she is Reicc003

Careful - make sure you quote the name right. They are a right prickly customer and that's a fact.

Crikeyalmighty · 11/06/2023 10:50

Ah I see the Tory PR team have joined us. Maybe make it look a bit more authentic and post on things other than Brexit , the Tory's or Boris bloody Johnson!!

jgw1 · 11/06/2023 10:51

Based in Moscow?

Crikeyalmighty · 11/06/2023 10:51

@SerendipityJane oops one C too many!'
A problem with the Tory's in general

SerendipityJane · 11/06/2023 10:52

jgw1 · 11/06/2023 10:51

Based in Moscow?

You've probably more chances of finding a Russian propagandist in London than Moscow at the moment.

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