Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect

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Just breaking now on BBC.

Same day as Nadine.

Does personal responsibility also apply to Boris and so are you like me appalled by the lack of it shown by him consistently?

We'd all love to forget about Bojo but he keeps reminding us he is still here! so he could have just resigned quietly & not plotted to get 2 other MPs to step down too but he can't help himself

Oh the irony! "personally responsibility" or was that addressed to Bojo? when has he shown any?

Yes to some extent yes but if you have a medical condition or need dental treatment but face either unaffordable treatment or a 2 year wait, have to give up work and go on benefits, who is to blame for that?

It would be easier to forget Johnson if he didn't have groupies banging a drum for him in parliament and online.

I’d love to be able to forget about Johnson, wake up and find it was all a dream. But the nightmarish havoc he has wreaked since 2016 is all too real.
On the old Westminstenders threads we used to speculate on how long it would take for him to destroy the Conservative Party - well now we know, with the trashing of the reputation of Parliament and politics in general thrown in as an aside.
The influence of a pathological liar and narcissistic fantasist at the very top of government appears to have an all pervading corrupting effect. We see this on both sides of the Atlantic.

Whilst Boris was having parties (birthday or wine and cheese who actually cares) we were having a socially distanced funeral for a friend, no wake, no sitting next to each other, no celebration of their life,no comforting each other in the Chapel. Why was Boris allowed to party when we weren't?

How anyone can defend the man is beyond me.

Does this mean you think him talking about leaving for now in his resignation speech was bullshitting then, that this is the end of him in politics? And that there won't be any more resignations from allies?

There are pictures of the cake, just saying.

I distinctly remember some of those rewarded by Boris in his list (think Clark, Burns) giving interviews explaining after reports of the parties in patronising voices that there was nothing to see here and you peasants had got it all wrong. They didn't seem very worried about the people who had to have "different" funerals. Sadly, I remember some members of the public too saying leave Boris alone, only a piece of cake etc.

How anyone can defend the man is beyond me.

I agree, last night on every bit of news you see, there are people saying he’s done a good job and they want him to come back. All I can say is these people must have very sheltered lives because they’re deluded if they think he’s done a good job. He’s a proven liar and gaslighter and those who’ve believed him have been had! Maybe that’s why they carry on supporting him, because they can’t admit they were so wrong.

He indicated that he might be back. Dreadful man.

Unfortunately, yes.

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People need to take ownership of their own lives, no politician is going to make everything better or make everything much worse

Tell that to the people of Wales whose mining communities were destroyed by Thatcher and have never properly recovered.

People need to take ownership of their own lives, no politician is going to make everything better or make everything much worse
@Florenz in that case you are probably in favour of not having a government at all. I mean, what are they for?

The big difference with the Thatcher era is that there were a few nutters on the fringe of the party who were generally regarded as a joke. She wanted competent ministers and would never have let these people any where near government. Boris on the other hand only liked people who supported him and brexit so as a result all sorts of cranks, chancers and no-hopers got into positions of power.

@romatheroamer I agree with that- she also was very interested in business and a champion of the EU- couldn't stand her in many ways but economically she understood far better than BJ ever would

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Whilst Boris was having parties (birthday or wine and cheese who actually cares) we were having a socially distanced funeral for a friend, no wake, no sitting next to each other, no celebration of their life, no comforting each other in the Chapel. Why was Boris allowed to party when we weren't?
How anyone can defend the man is beyond me.

Out of interest, what are your feelings towards Keir Starmer? Bearing in mind that Starmer voted in favour of Covid restrictions in the Commons (Corbyn voted against), didn't follow the guidance for constituency visits in Durham (guidance is different from legislation), ate outside, wearing a thick coat the evening before Durham (for the publicity shots) and lied about how many people were with him in the hall (Starmer suggested 'about 6 people', when there were 16 other people there). Both the cheese and wine gathering you mentioned above, and the beer and curry gathering were classed as work meetings and not fined.

Well finally

So Boris wants to avoid the scrutiny of Parliament or the will of the British people at a by election.

A bit ironic.

Oh - and this is about Boris. No derailing here.

Given that his resignations as PM and as an MP are entirely due to loss of support from his fellow Conservative MPs, the facts suggest (unless you believe in conspiracy theories) that he just isn’t very good at the job.

If Starmer did wrong he needs to go as well but this is about Boris, Starmer also wasn't on TV everyday telling us not to do this or that whilst doing exactly that.

I couldn't care less if wine and cheese was classed as work. We weren't allowed work socials so why were they? Since when has a wine and cheese party or even a birthday been work anyway?!

There were people dying alone, family unable to have proper funerals, children missing out on education but that's okay wine and cheese was a work event so to hell with the misery that that man put millions of people through.

He can never have enough attention. He does anything for attention. He put forward his chronies for honours but didn't get enough attention because Nadine resigned. He's also probably hoping he won't be prosecuted if he's not a MP.

For people saying to let it go. We can't. He wrecked the country with Brexit. Areas of our country relied on ESF and ERDF to educate, feed and build roads or buildings. He had parties whilst people died alone, gave birth alone, had Christmas alone and key workers risked their lives every day.

The Starmer case was investigated twice by police (the second time because of Tory pressure) and they found no wrongdoing. Boris was investigated and found to have breached the rules. It really is that simple. The rules were different in 2020 as compared to 2021. It's sheer whataboutery, but that's only to be expected from Clav.

Starmer was not the PM responsible for making the rules & telling everyone else to follow them.

The rules at the time of the "Curry gathering" were different from those at the time of partygate.

Starmer was campaigning at the time which was allowed.

Starmer hadn't broken the rules whereas Johnson had.

BunnyBettChetwynnd
"The UK failed to act quickly in response to the emergence of COVID-19"
British Medical Association.

The BMA have this quote on the front page summary of their report online;
Did they not see what was happening in China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Italy? It was like they thought it would not come here.
Consultant, Scotland

I recall looking back at various tweets from prominent government critics in 2020:

Richard Horton (editor of the Lancet);
A call for caution please. Media are escalating anxiety by talking of a “killer virus” + “growing fears”. In truth, from what we currently know, 2019-nCoV has moderate transmissibility and relatively low pathogenicity. There is no reason to foster panic with exaggerated language.
7:18am . Jan 24, 2020

Devi Sridhar - 3:45 PM · Feb 17, 2020
WHO clearly saying it is NOT calling #COVID19 a pandemic b/c majority of cases are in China & majority of cases outside of China have direct link to China. @ DrMikeRyan #factsnotfear

Boris Johnson has faced a flurry of criticism after it was reported he did not attend five Cobra crisis meetings on the coronavirus as it spread across the world and made inroads into the UK

The Cobra meetings in Exercise Cygnus (2016 pandemic planning exercise) were chaired by the Secretary of State for Health and the Minister for the Cabinet Office - not the prime minister.