Ioan Gruffudd daughter in news

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Again this is in the news with him getting a restraining order. I always thought Alice was nuts but I've been reading that Ioan isn't as nice as he makes out. And those silly staged pics of him and his girlfriend.

I agree, I think given how cautious he’s been so far, it would be out of character to assume he just didn’t prepare the girls before they saw Bianca. In the interests of being fair though, I wanted to say my opinion is we don’t know for sure and I would view him negatively if he had surprised the girls.

In terms of speculation, I’m totally onboard with that as I think it’s the nature of gossiping. I do think those people who seem reluctant to criticise Alice might be looking for ‘gotcha’ moments to use though (where the discussion then ends up concentrating on whether something is fact vs fiction rather than the trauma Alice is causing).

Totally BB vibes but from the book I read, it seems Alice is more like the Betty portrayed by Meredith Baxter in the older film rather than the more sympathetic character depiction in Netflix.

I do think the real Dan (whilst alive) was really problematic in his treatment of Betty though it never excuses the murders. I don’t get Dan vibes from Ioan at all, I’m a poster who doesn’t believe Ioan cheated and I also don’t see Ioan trying to keep Alice on the sidelines like Dan did. I think if Ioan had a choice he would never see or communicate with Alice in his life ever again but I do think Dan Broderick used to enjoy toying with Betty’s emotions and would go out of his way to engage or see her because he enjoyed her pain and the thoughts that she still loved him.

I think what makes Alice different is she wouldn’t risk her freedom to hurt Ioan but I do think she’d happily let and even goad someone else to do something tragic so she could see him suffer whilst claiming to also be a victim herself, I do believe she is that far gone with her hatred.

Is Alice now homeschooling the girls or have I misinterpreted comments?

It's going to be a trying next few weeks coming up for them all I think...

She says she’s h9me schooling. He says he sees no evidence of this actually happening 🤷‍♀️. I suspect he stopped paying for private school as he says he can’t afford it and she’s just refused to send them to a public/state school.

She’s only ‘homeschooling’ the eldest though, Elsie still goes to mainstream school. Alice has often ‘joked’ about how high energy Elsie is and how she struggles with having energy and patience to deal with her. She’s also mentioned Elsie struggles more with schoolwork than Ella did. If Alice truly believes in home schooling, why wouldn’t she want to homeschool her youngest who could really benefit from that 1 on 1 tutoring?

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the child who is supposedly high energy (Elsie) is still in school as well as having many more play dates and activities away from home than the eldest. One might be forgiven for thinking Alice is too lazy to parent a child who won’t just be occupied by a screen like the eldest seems to be (and whilst Alice spends her life on SM, possibly drinking and goodness knows what else).

Ioan said Alice used to stay up late and then not get out of the bed until the afternoon (even if she was awake), she basically turned her days round back to front and didn’t seem to care if that meant she only had a few hours before the children would be going to bed.

I think she’s always been lazy and averse to actual parenting (she hired nanny after nanny even though she wasn’t actually working and didn’t appear to go anywhere- it looks like she’s made a series of lifestyle choices to make sure she did didn’t have to look after her own kids and that’s so sad)

Speculating: (I’m going to have to put this every time aren't I)

Homeschooling (or the pretence of it) is not going to look good for Alice in terms of the PA. Isolating the child from peers and other adults will be having a negative effect on her emotional well-being and means that the child will likely be spending more time with the mother than most other 13 year olds would, and being exposed to more adult themes and narratives about her parents than she should be.

Thanks

I don't believe home Ed. in itself, done properly, and with socialisation opportunities provided, is a bad thing or would be viewed so by the courts. In this situation it's possibly not the best idea and might not go down too well.

I wonder why just the eldest.

I read that about the hours she spent in bed. She described herself, more than once possibly, as 50% bed bound.

There is no evidence that Ioan cheated on Alice. There are many rumours that she cheated on him during their marriage.

Alice, of course claims that he did , but also claims that Bianca has broken up four marriages. She lies about so many outlandish things that quite frankly I wouldn't believe anything at this stage.

Do you know them all Personally @MissFancyDay ? 🤔

Alice also said he spent a million dollars on hookers but then has never produced anything to show it. She never responds to any of the court processes (as she is entitled to do so) and then complains she is being gagged from saying anything. Instead of doing anything in court she is apparently saving it all for her tell all book which she thinks is going to make her rich and famous. I am not sure I can see a publisher going with this book due to all the legalities but I think that’s what she’s clinging to. She’s had her children recording their father for 2 years, she’s also been recording them having interactions with him, completely invading everyone’s privacy and putting immense pressure on her DC to collect ‘evidence’ for her. She is fully invested in winning somehow even if it destroys everything around her. It is utterly tragic, there is being angry at your husband for leaving you and then there is going scorched Earth to ruin everyone’s lives. Somewhere in the middle she could have stopped for her own sake if nothing else, but she’s going stronger than ever now on Twitter (not using her own name this time)

I can’t believe this walking mattress actually believes she’s going to get a book deal.

She can barely motivate herself to wash and get out of her bed, let alone have the discipline it takes to write a book. Some of us may remember how she described herself as a ‘stinky chipmunk’, she thought it was a funny anecdote to share that Ioan was repulsed by her days unbrushed teeth and unwashed body (which was draped in a smelly nightdress that sounded so stale and crispy it almost threw itself into the washing machine on her behalf).

Aside from Alice being too lazy to write a book, which publisher is going to want to publish a book by someone talking about their victim (in the eyes of a judge Ioan is a victim who has been so abused he granted him a Domestic Violence Restraining Order).

Alice can spout all she likes about ‘evidence’ and revealing the truth on SM (which coincidentally is the opposite of her ‘truth’ in her sworn affidavits). She thinks revealing her ‘truth’ on SM doesn’t hold the same risk as perjuring herself on official court records but I imagine she won’t be long in finding out that socks and proxy abuse offers no more shield from criminal prosecution than if she’d called them child abusers from her own account.

This is such a disgusting post on so many levels. I wish I hadn't read it, but now I can't un-read it. I get that you don't like AE, but do you have to describe her in such repulsive terms - "walking mattress". Really? I don't understand how one human could talk of another in those terms. She isn't a mattress she is actually a person and, by the sound of it, a very sensitive and vulnerable person.

I apologise if it offends you but yes, for me, she is a ‘walking mattress’. In Alice’s own words, she spends a minimum of 50% of her children’s childhood in bed (also backed up by Ioan’s court testimony too). If she had a terminal disease or any other officially diagnosed chronic disease, I wouldn’t dream of calling her that.

However, by Alice’s own admission, Ioan went with her to ‘over a hundred’ doctors but yet she does not have a single Dr. who was willing to provide her with a diagnosis (and certainly not one of a chronic illness- that’s her own words, not mine). Please, if you can give just ONE public documented example of anyone who visited over close to a 100 Dr.’s (as Alice claimed) and then got a diagnosis I will absolutely admit my shame.

In my opinion, Alice’s doctor shopping gives people with a chronic illness a horrible name. People have to go to war with the system everyday but for those who had children, they find a way to raise their own family. I don’t believe Alice has a chronic illness, but if she does, why did she expend her energy on being chronically online instead of reading/playing with her children etc?

I would be interested in how you feel about someone with a supposed chronic illness consuming excessive alcohol (potentially pills) - do you think those choices improve their chances of being able to parent? I ask because Ioan said he had concerns of Alice’s excessive usage of alcohol and Ambien, doesn’t sound like a parent desperately looking for anything to ease her symptoms so she can be a mum. What it does sound like is someone who wanted children but when she had them, she realised it’s hard work so she looked for any reason to claim she was were incapacitated to look after them.

Some of us may remember how she described herself as a ‘stinky chipmunk’, she thought it was a funny anecdote to share that Ioan was repulsed by her days unbrushed teeth and unwashed body

She does over share I think 🤢

It’s a rhetorical device, exaggerating for an intended comic effect. I don’t think you’re supposed to take it literally.

“Walking mattress” has quite a different meaning to “somebody who spends a lot of time asleep”.

“Walking mattress” means slapper. Like “town bike”. Everyone’s slept with/on her. Perhaps you hadn’t heard that usage, but that’s what people are objecting to.

I just read your post again @Merlin69 and it feels even nastier on a second read. Why go there? You don’t like her, you think she is a malingering child abuser. You’ve made your point. Why do you feel the need to keep going on and on and on? Perhaps give it a rest for a bit?

I'm afraid that Alice does/has over shared generally @Fisharejumping regardless of the intended meaning of that particular 'hilarious' anecdote.

You weren't the same poster who was talking earlier in the thread about the abuser who twists the knife into the psyche then something about screaming in agony. About IG. My apologies if not you, otherwise I think I'll back away.

Everything is so literal for you, isn’t it? You cannot recognise a metaphor or a figure of speech. You see literal knives in psyches, which means everything has to be spelled out. Your vision is limited to that of simple tabloid sensation. Given this trait I cannot fathom how you of all people can even begin to think that you are qualified to interpret legal documents or understand what goes in inside the mind of a child. You who cannot recognise complexity and nuance and regale us daily with wild supposition packaged up as fact.

I apologise if it offends you but yes, for me, she is a ‘walking mattress’. In Alice’s own words, she spends a minimum of 50% of her children’s childhood in bed (also backed up by Ioan’s court testimony too). If she had a terminal disease or any other officially diagnosed chronic disease, I wouldn’t dream of calling her that

she has fibromyalgia which last time I looked is a chronic disease. And please don’t come back with a retort about how she says she has fibromyalgia. It’s hard enough living with unseen, chronic illnesses without that sort of rubbish trotted out by People.

And the most salient point is that I made my feelings known about IG further up the thread. I am not still banging on about him several posts later - although your resurrection of my earlier post now makes it seem otherwise.

This was intended for @Merlin69

Alice has clearly been through the wringer, please don’t be so unkind to women who are struggling. She didn’t ask for any of this. Women shouldn’t have to pretend everything is fine when it isn’t.

@tigger2022 so you think 'poor Alice, she's had all this just happen to her and has been sweetness and light throughout'?
Sadly these days I find those who say. 'Be kind/don't be unkind' are doing it from a position of expectation of obedience and will not tolerate their opinion being prioritised.

Ioan shouldnt have to pretend hes fine with having been alienated from his own children.

This isnt about a woman who has been through the wringer, this is about a woman who has lost control of someone and is therefore doing everything she can to punish them.