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Ioan Gruffudd daughter in news

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HelenaBellena · 08/06/2023 06:43

Again this is in the news with him getting a restraining order. I always thought Alice was nuts but I've been reading that Ioan isn't as nice as he makes out. And those silly staged pics of him and his girlfriend.

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Icanbringmyselfflowers · 08/06/2023 06:45

I don’t think it’s in the “news” more it’s in the tabloids or media. Clearly more to it and a dysfunctional dynamic. I’m not really sure why you’re posting. We can all read the media and don’t need someone to tell us?

Elysiaxo · 08/06/2023 06:50

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QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 06:51

To be honest nobody knows what’s happening. Could be as the tabloids described or could also be a case of parental alienation in which case I feel sorry for him. Actually I feel most sorry for the girls. Either way it seems their relationship with their father is not recoverable and that’s a real shame. People have the right to leave a relationship they’re not happy in. Affairs aren’t good but the children should always be the priority in a relationship breakdown and this has not happened here. Those kids are going to be badly fucked up by this.

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HelenaBellena · 08/06/2023 06:56

I actually wondered whether Ioan is deliberately influencing the media (apparently he has a media friend) to depict Alice badly. Even the stories today seem to hint its her fault.

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BibbleandSqwauk · 08/06/2023 06:56

No idea why celebrities' families are in the news at all. It's none of our business. Literally none. It has no impact on our lives so why does it need to be reported? Whatever is happening is presumably difficult enough without the added stress of the goldfish bowl of the media.

Needmorelego · 08/06/2023 06:57

She is 13 so I really don’t think anyone should gossip about her.
Sorry OP but I am going to report this thread.

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 06:58

HelenaBellena · 08/06/2023 06:56

I actually wondered whether Ioan is deliberately influencing the media (apparently he has a media friend) to depict Alice badly. Even the stories today seem to hint its her fault.

Well I can’t imagine she sits at home saying nice things about him and Bianca to the kids. So if she’s constantly slagging the pair of them off and possibly telling them stuff like if they don’t want to be there kick off and run away then I’d agree she has some culpability. She does come across as unhinged and that has affected how the daughters view their dad.

Simianwalk · 08/06/2023 07:01

How awful for the 13 year old to be in the press. She is going to be fucked up.

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 07:02

Needmorelego · 08/06/2023 06:57

She is 13 so I really don’t think anyone should gossip about her.
Sorry OP but I am going to report this thread.

I think you’re right. I was trying to be careful and purposefully only talk about the adults involved but there is a big potential for the children’s behaviour to be discussed which isn’t fair. They have enough shit going on.

AngelAurora · 08/06/2023 07:02

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 06:51

To be honest nobody knows what’s happening. Could be as the tabloids described or could also be a case of parental alienation in which case I feel sorry for him. Actually I feel most sorry for the girls. Either way it seems their relationship with their father is not recoverable and that’s a real shame. People have the right to leave a relationship they’re not happy in. Affairs aren’t good but the children should always be the priority in a relationship breakdown and this has not happened here. Those kids are going to be badly fucked up by this.

You feel sorry for him? The man who has dumped his wife and kids for a woman 20 years younger, and who puts first before his kids?

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 07:14

AngelAurora · 08/06/2023 07:02

You feel sorry for him? The man who has dumped his wife and kids for a woman 20 years younger, and who puts first before his kids?

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Yes. Because while what he did was horrible he doesn’t deserve to lose his relationship with his daughters over it. Yes it’s possible (but unlikely due to their age) they’d have decided off their own bat they didn’t like him anymore. But it certainly seems they’ve been poisoned against him by their mother. How many people have affairs and leave partners? Thousands? The majority don’t get the kids taking sides like this.

Escapetofrance · 08/06/2023 07:25

If you have an affair and leave your partner, you know it will have an adverse impact on your children, even if you have the most amicable of separations. It’s a choice you make.
Its terribly sad for the 13 year old, whatever is going on.

bladebladebla1 · 08/06/2023 07:27

@QuintanaRoo wow you're unbelievably naive. Christ

SweetSakura · 08/06/2023 07:31

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 07:14

Yes. Because while what he did was horrible he doesn’t deserve to lose his relationship with his daughters over it. Yes it’s possible (but unlikely due to their age) they’d have decided off their own bat they didn’t like him anymore. But it certainly seems they’ve been poisoned against him by their mother. How many people have affairs and leave partners? Thousands? The majority don’t get the kids taking sides like this.

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My son decided at 9 he hated his dad because of things his dad had done. I didn't influence him in the slightest. I was so conscious of being accused of parental alienation I stayed helplessly neutral even when his dad had behaved appallingly towards him (putting his life at risk). (I did get him a decent therapist though)

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 07:32

bladebladebla1 · 08/06/2023 07:27

@QuintanaRoo wow you're unbelievably naive. Christ

I don’t think it’s naive to have a different viewpoint from you. I could say the same about you! 🤷‍♀️. But I wouldn’t be so rude. 😁

I do feel sorry for her. I feel incredibly sorry for her the way she was dumped. But I also feel sorry for him over how his relationship has broken down with his daughters. Some people may say he deserved that, I just don’t think he did.

I think what is naive is to think any situation is black and white. Nobody has a clue what goes on behind closed doors in any relationship. It is possible to feel sorry for more than one person in a situation for different reasons. And certainly the people I feel most sorry for are the kids.

bladebladebla1 · 08/06/2023 07:33

@QuintanaRoo bless

KetoQueen · 08/06/2023 07:33

I feel sorry for those girls, neither parent is putting them first from the looks of it.

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 07:35

SweetSakura · 08/06/2023 07:31

My son decided at 9 he hated his dad because of things his dad had done. I didn't influence him in the slightest. I was so conscious of being accused of parental alienation I stayed helplessly neutral even when his dad had behaved appallingly towards him (putting his life at risk). (I did get him a decent therapist though)

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And quite possibly Alice behaved like you…..however from how she behaved on social media I doubt it. She was so vocal in her upset. And I get that women have the right to be angry and to voice that anger. I do see the viewpoint that women shouldn’t be good polite women who shut up, etc. But when there are children involved who will see that and read that there has to be a line. Yes, he didn’t put the children first but neither did she.

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 07:35

bladebladebla1 · 08/06/2023 07:33

@QuintanaRoo bless

Bless to you too. 😂

Imnoonesfool · 08/06/2023 07:36

bladebladebla1 · 08/06/2023 07:33

@QuintanaRoo bless

Rude for rudes sake 🙄

femfemlicious · 08/06/2023 07:38

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 07:32

I don’t think it’s naive to have a different viewpoint from you. I could say the same about you! 🤷‍♀️. But I wouldn’t be so rude. 😁

I do feel sorry for her. I feel incredibly sorry for her the way she was dumped. But I also feel sorry for him over how his relationship has broken down with his daughters. Some people may say he deserved that, I just don’t think he did.

I think what is naive is to think any situation is black and white. Nobody has a clue what goes on behind closed doors in any relationship. It is possible to feel sorry for more than one person in a situation for different reasons. And certainly the people I feel most sorry for are the kids.

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I think what she is most angry about is that she gave up her career to take care of the kids and support his career then he dumps her after many years. They destroy you then except you to immediately " move on". He really needs to find a way to mend the relationship with his ex wife. I definitely think she needs counselling and to find a way to get back into work.

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 07:39

Imnoonesfool · 08/06/2023 07:36

Rude for rudes sake 🙄

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Some people just can’t have a grown up discussion and accept that people have different viewpoints and politely discuss those. Instead they rather immaturely lower themselves to passive aggressive insults. Says a lot about them I guess. 😄

drpet49 · 08/06/2023 07:40

femfemlicious · 08/06/2023 07:38

I think what she is most angry about is that she gave up her career to take care of the kids and support his career then he dumps her after many years. They destroy you then except you to immediately " move on". He really needs to find a way to mend the relationship with his ex wife. I definitely think she needs counselling and to find a way to get back into work.

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Alice made her own shitty choices and now it’s everyone else’s fault. Funny that.

QuintanaRoo · 08/06/2023 07:41

femfemlicious · 08/06/2023 07:38

I think what she is most angry about is that she gave up her career to take care of the kids and support his career then he dumps her after many years. They destroy you then except you to immediately " move on". He really needs to find a way to mend the relationship with his ex wife. I definitely think she needs counselling and to find a way to get back into work.

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I agree it must have been devastating for her. Coupled with the fact that sadly in Hollywood it’s easier for an older man to keep finding work than it is for an “older” woman. (I do get she is not old, but she’s also not Hollywood young).

femfemlicious · 08/06/2023 07:45

drpet49 · 08/06/2023 07:40

Alice made her own shitty choices and now it’s everyone else’s fault. Funny that.

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She made a "shitty choice" to stay home and take care of her girls whilst her husband flies all over the world filming...WOW!

Or they made a decision as a family that she stay home?. Would he have stayed home while she flew around the world?.

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