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Just Stop Oil protesters vandalise Chelsea Flower Show garden

337 replies

blacksax · 25/05/2023 15:04

WTF do these people stand for?

Just fuck off you utter, utter cunts.

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AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 25/05/2023 23:16

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 25/05/2023 23:11

What was @Itdoesnthavetobejusrol reply?

Sorry Johnny. I see the question is being avoided. I should have read that more carefully.

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 25/05/2023 23:17

CheeseTouch · 25/05/2023 22:59

Last year the floods in Pakistan killed 1,739 people, injured 12,800 and made 33 million people homeless. That’s the equivalent of about half of the population of the UK.

The floods were directly due to climate change causing a severe heat wave that lead to heavier than usual rains and melting glaciers. Malawi’s population have suffered terrible climate change related losses of life and destitution this year.

One person missing a funeral is sad, of course it is, but how can you compare it to human misery on such a large scale?

So why aren't they protesting where they should be, i.e., in the countries that contribute the most to carbon emissions?

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 25/05/2023 23:19

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 25/05/2023 23:16

Sorry Johnny. I see the question is being avoided. I should have read that more carefully.

No worries, I saw that a post had been deleted and assumed it was from @Itdoesnthavetobejusrol .

Itdoesnthavetobejusrol · 25/05/2023 23:20

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 25/05/2023 22:56

I'm asking you (now for the fourth time) is today's stunt all JSO have done? Are you incapable of answering a simple question?

You know the answer to that. You are just being annoying.

Go away.

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 25/05/2023 23:21

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 25/05/2023 23:17

So why aren't they protesting where they should be, i.e., in the countries that contribute the most to carbon emissions?

A good question which won't get answered obviously.

Itdoesnthavetobejusrol · 25/05/2023 23:22

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 25/05/2023 23:16

Sorry Johnny. I see the question is being avoided. I should have read that more carefully.

The question is not being avoided. I just know that this person already knows the answer and is just harassing me. I was cooking a curry actually.

CheeseTouch · 25/05/2023 23:23

Hawkins0001 · 25/05/2023 23:04

Some people with orange paint are hardly going to change the world ?, where's their scientific contribution ?

Scientific contribution on its own isn’t prompting government to act in a manner that is proportionate to the severity of the crisis. Scientists have been contributing to climate change research for decades and the evidence has strengthened, yet politicians aren’t taking the actions we need them to take. Climate scientists are frustrated and upset about this.

As has already been pointed out, nonviolent direct action has in numerous instances changed the world. There is evidence for it doing so.

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 25/05/2023 23:26

Itdoesnthavetobejusrol · 25/05/2023 23:20

You know the answer to that. You are just being annoying.

Go away.

So you admit that your earlier comment that all they've done is throw some powder on the floor is absolute tripe?

Hawkins0001 · 25/05/2023 23:26

CheeseTouch · 25/05/2023 23:23

Scientific contribution on its own isn’t prompting government to act in a manner that is proportionate to the severity of the crisis. Scientists have been contributing to climate change research for decades and the evidence has strengthened, yet politicians aren’t taking the actions we need them to take. Climate scientists are frustrated and upset about this.

As has already been pointed out, nonviolent direct action has in numerous instances changed the world. There is evidence for it doing so.

But by the same logic what methods has worked before does not mean they will work for this, plus there's always the theory that their may have been other factors that influenced x, events so the public only presume that it was eg protestors etc when it could of been various other factors.

caringcarer · 25/05/2023 23:27

CheeseTouch · 25/05/2023 22:59

Last year the floods in Pakistan killed 1,739 people, injured 12,800 and made 33 million people homeless. That’s the equivalent of about half of the population of the UK.

The floods were directly due to climate change causing a severe heat wave that lead to heavier than usual rains and melting glaciers. Malawi’s population have suffered terrible climate change related losses of life and destitution this year.

One person missing a funeral is sad, of course it is, but how can you compare it to human misery on such a large scale?

Then why aren't they protesting in China and India who are the largest polluting countries? The UK is actually one of the countries leading the changes. Stopping people from getting to their family funerals or taking sick children to hospital is disgusting and just makes people angry and won't change peoples behaviour. If these protesters really wanted to help they would help educate the public not anger them.

Hawkins0001 · 25/05/2023 23:27

CheeseTouch · 25/05/2023 23:23

Scientific contribution on its own isn’t prompting government to act in a manner that is proportionate to the severity of the crisis. Scientists have been contributing to climate change research for decades and the evidence has strengthened, yet politicians aren’t taking the actions we need them to take. Climate scientists are frustrated and upset about this.

As has already been pointed out, nonviolent direct action has in numerous instances changed the world. There is evidence for it doing so.

Besides politician's can say x, but they still need big business, tech, etc to help carry out their agendas.

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 25/05/2023 23:28

Itdoesnthavetobejusrol · 25/05/2023 23:22

The question is not being avoided. I just know that this person already knows the answer and is just harassing me. I was cooking a curry actually.

You have very clearly avoided answering the question. Good grief.

Hawkins0001 · 25/05/2023 23:28

caringcarer · 25/05/2023 23:27

Then why aren't they protesting in China and India who are the largest polluting countries? The UK is actually one of the countries leading the changes. Stopping people from getting to their family funerals or taking sick children to hospital is disgusting and just makes people angry and won't change peoples behaviour. If these protesters really wanted to help they would help educate the public not anger them.

Exactly

Hawkins0001 · 25/05/2023 23:29

Itdoesnthavetobejusrol · 25/05/2023 23:22

The question is not being avoided. I just know that this person already knows the answer and is just harassing me. I was cooking a curry actually.

Anything nice in the curry ? Or with it too

Itdoesnthavetobejusrol · 25/05/2023 23:29

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 25/05/2023 23:26

So you admit that your earlier comment that all they've done is throw some powder on the floor is absolute tripe?

That is all they did at Chelsea - it was pretty innocuous. Don't really understand why people are getting so worked up about a 2 minute publicity stunt when the world is about to be thrown in total and utter chaos.

CheeseTouch · 25/05/2023 23:30

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 25/05/2023 23:21

A good question which won't get answered obviously.

The climate crisis is global. Greenhouse gases don’t respect borders 😂 Action need to be taken by the public everywhere where governments aren’t acting proportionately, which includes the UK.

Nature doesn’t care where the emissions cuts come from. Cuts need to happen everywhere but especially in developed countries in the global north.

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 25/05/2023 23:30

caringcarer · 25/05/2023 23:27

Then why aren't they protesting in China and India who are the largest polluting countries? The UK is actually one of the countries leading the changes. Stopping people from getting to their family funerals or taking sick children to hospital is disgusting and just makes people angry and won't change peoples behaviour. If these protesters really wanted to help they would help educate the public not anger them.

Exactly! I'd love to see them trying to disrupt normal working folk in Tiananmen Square! 😂

Hawkins0001 · 25/05/2023 23:30

Itdoesnthavetobejusrol · 25/05/2023 23:29

That is all they did at Chelsea - it was pretty innocuous. Don't really understand why people are getting so worked up about a 2 minute publicity stunt when the world is about to be thrown in total and utter chaos.

The world will always be in peril.

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 25/05/2023 23:31

Itdoesnthavetobejusrol · 25/05/2023 23:29

That is all they did at Chelsea - it was pretty innocuous. Don't really understand why people are getting so worked up about a 2 minute publicity stunt when the world is about to be thrown in total and utter chaos.

Is that all JSO have done?

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 25/05/2023 23:33

CheeseTouch · 25/05/2023 23:30

The climate crisis is global. Greenhouse gases don’t respect borders 😂 Action need to be taken by the public everywhere where governments aren’t acting proportionately, which includes the UK.

Nature doesn’t care where the emissions cuts come from. Cuts need to happen everywhere but especially in developed countries in the global north.

We're fully aware that the climate crisis is global. But some countries are far more polluting than others, so why don't they protest there where it's more needed?

Itdoesnthavetobejusrol · 25/05/2023 23:34

Hawkins0001 · 25/05/2023 23:30

The world will always be in peril.

People are clearly not mentally prepared for what is about to happen.

Once it starts, it won't stop.

No human will ever have experienced anything like it. It's going to annihilate everything as we know it. It will be like a global warzone with bells on.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 25/05/2023 23:37

The6thQueen · 25/05/2023 22:56

Thank you for making my point @AnarchoTyrannosaurus and @NeverDropYourMooncup 🙄😁

What? You had a point beyond attempting to align caring about an animal's welfare with wanting to keep women as chattels?

In any case, surely giving a shit about the welfare of the unfortunate beast that happened to be accosted by somebody who wanted publicity above the safety and welfare of said animal is somewhat more aligned to the ecological cause, surely?

Or is the crux of XR's argument fuck animals, we want humans to prevail? Because if that's the issue, you're falling at the first hurdle. Humans are the problem. The world doesn't need them. The planet will get along fine without them. The process of getting to the point of the planet being fine won't be fun - but the planet will still be around, evolving new dominant lifeforms in whatever atmospheric and meteorological conditions it will find itself once we've been starved, drowned, infected or nuked out of existence.

The best thing we could do is get extinct sooner.

Or is something not quite so fucking anthrocentric not quite so palatable?

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 25/05/2023 23:42

CheeseTouch · 25/05/2023 23:30

The climate crisis is global. Greenhouse gases don’t respect borders 😂 Action need to be taken by the public everywhere where governments aren’t acting proportionately, which includes the UK.

Nature doesn’t care where the emissions cuts come from. Cuts need to happen everywhere but especially in developed countries in the global north.

😂 The days of European countries as being major polluters is well over. The UK have already done enormous amounts.

Can you see countries where there are actual real problems, with huge populations, like India and China adhering to this? Because they're not going to. They will just continue as they are, whilst countries like the UK destroy themselves.

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 25/05/2023 23:44

Itdoesnthavetobejusrol · 25/05/2023 23:34

People are clearly not mentally prepared for what is about to happen.

Once it starts, it won't stop.

No human will ever have experienced anything like it. It's going to annihilate everything as we know it. It will be like a global warzone with bells on.

No, people will up dying because of no food and no decent heating. Western culture is really pressing the button to destroy themselves in hurtling towards the insanity of net zero.

Hawkins0001 · 25/05/2023 23:45

Itdoesnthavetobejusrol · 25/05/2023 23:34

People are clearly not mentally prepared for what is about to happen.

Once it starts, it won't stop.

No human will ever have experienced anything like it. It's going to annihilate everything as we know it. It will be like a global warzone with bells on.

Let's be honest, humanity reaching the stars and joining the galaxies empires is more monumental, than the earth getting warmer. It's hardly going to be mad max world, or solar babies type world's