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Thread 24, Sunak and the local elections aftermath

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DuncinToffee · 15/05/2023 11:04

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Roussette · 24/05/2023 09:10

I really really want to see Johnson's final straw on all its glory

DuncinToffee · 24/05/2023 09:11

Oh Roussette what an image, bleurgh

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DePfeffoff · 24/05/2023 09:18

DuncinToffee · 24/05/2023 09:09

Toddler tantrums and shades of Trump

Steven Swinford

Boris Johnson allies up the ante and warn they will obstruct Rishi Sunak’s government unless he intervened to stop what they see as a ‘witch hunt’

They say it’s the ‘final straw’ for Johnson and warn that MPs and members supportive of former PM will begin organising

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I'm not sure that's the threat they think it is. He got nowhere when he tried to rally people to vote against the NI agreement, and many of his former supporters have realised that there is absolutely no future in supporting him. Making life difficult for the government and precipitating an early election is the last thing any of them want.

DuncinToffee · 24/05/2023 09:29

Quite bleak latest inflation numbers

Yes overall inflation down to 8.7%

But that’s higher than was expected.

Core inflation rose by 6.8%, up from 6.2%

And food inflation at an eye watering 19.1%. Crippling for the poorest (and even non-poorest) families.

Staple goods inflation massive, in many cases

bread 18.6%
pasta 27.7%
meat 17.2%
dairy and eggs 29.3%
olive oil 46.4%
sugar 47.4%

This is a catastrophe for many.

twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1661286636682977280?s=20

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RafaistheKingofClay · 24/05/2023 09:34

Efacsen · 24/05/2023 08:58

I thought, perhaps wrongly that it was now accepted that his admission was precautionary and therefore reasonable - not a life or death situation

But maybe that's not correct

I don’t think that is correct although I know it gets said a lot. Nearly died is probably a bit of a stretch, but Johnson is incapable of telling the truth so saying it wasn’t too bad was probably also a lie.

The fact that they didn’t end up having to intubate him doesn’t necessarily mean that they hadn’t considered that there was a possibility they would need to given his condition.

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/05/2023 09:43

Boris’s allies are not the sharpest tools in the box.

  1. Why the hell would Rishi risk his career intervening in a police investigation for Boris. Especially given that:
  2. The reason that Boris isn’t currently PM after Truss is because he couldn’t get enough support.
DuncinToffee · 24/05/2023 09:47

https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1661289729294254083?s=20

Oof
After today’s higher-than-expected inflation, traders in financial markets are now betting that UK interest rates will rise well above 5% later this year, perhaps close to 5.5%.
Not long ago they thought they’d peak BELOW 5%.

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StormShadow · 24/05/2023 10:20

DePfeffoff · 24/05/2023 09:18

I'm not sure that's the threat they think it is. He got nowhere when he tried to rally people to vote against the NI agreement, and many of his former supporters have realised that there is absolutely no future in supporting him. Making life difficult for the government and precipitating an early election is the last thing any of them want.

Yeah, feels like an empty threat one way or another. They just don't have enough power any more.

jgw1 · 24/05/2023 10:21

DuncinToffee · 24/05/2023 09:09

Toddler tantrums and shades of Trump

Steven Swinford

Boris Johnson allies up the ante and warn they will obstruct Rishi Sunak’s government unless he intervened to stop what they see as a ‘witch hunt’

They say it’s the ‘final straw’ for Johnson and warn that MPs and members supportive of former PM will begin organising

🍿

I will be really impressed if they begin organising, but I suppose there is a first time for everything.
They didn't even manage to organise very good parties by some accounts when they were in government.

DuncinToffee · 24/05/2023 10:24

They didn't even manage to organise very good parties by some accounts when they were in government.

That made me laugh, so true Grin

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DuncinToffee · 24/05/2023 10:30

Is anyone surprised by Sunak?

BREAKING: Rishi Sunak writes to Home Secretary to tell her that she will not be investigated over her conduct in relation to her speeding fine.

“These matters do not amount to a breach of the ministerial code”.

Means matter is closed as far as PM and Home Sec are concerned.

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Notonthestairs · 24/05/2023 10:36

I am surprised that Sunak doesn't explain why Braverman's action did not constitute a breach of the Ministerial Code.
Then again maybe I'm not.

Maybe the right wingers will call off their action against their own party now Grin

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/05/2023 10:38

This going to come undone when they realise that some journalist somewhere has the whole story, isn’t it? Because they’ve been very deliberately not answering the question about what exactly she asked them to do.

Anyway, now they can focus on Rwanda.

Notonthestairs · 24/05/2023 10:40

Yes Braverman apparently made her requests by email so there is almost certainly a trail somewhere. I guess it depends on whether media owners/editors want to publish.

L1ttledrummergirl · 24/05/2023 12:06

Gloucester NHS Trust is not something that should be held up as a success rate. The staff are overstretched, over worked and under paid.
That's where my relative spent 42 hours in a&e in November following 6 hrs in the back of an ambulance waiting to get into the hospital. Not hard to reduce down from that.

Follow up appointments though seem thin on the ground.

L1ttledrummergirl · 24/05/2023 12:09

The lack of investigation is just one example of how rotten the whole of the cabinet is. Clearly they all agree or they would be resigning over this.
No fucking morals.

Sunak needs to fuck off fast.

jgw1 · 24/05/2023 13:00

L1ttledrummergirl · 24/05/2023 12:09

The lack of investigation is just one example of how rotten the whole of the cabinet is. Clearly they all agree or they would be resigning over this.
No fucking morals.

Sunak needs to fuck off fast.

Surely if Braverman were innocent she would want an investigation to prove it. As it is most people will just assume that she was trying to use her position to get out of the consequences of her criminality.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 24/05/2023 13:11

What about her undeclared ties to people making money off the Rwanda scheme? Is that also being ignored?

Notonthestairs · 24/05/2023 13:19

BREAKING: Official Covid inquiry threatens Cabinet Office with legal action over its refusal to share Boris Johnson’s WhatsApp messages and diaries from during the pandemic without heavy redactions.

twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1661339928205115393?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Lots of threats being thrown round at the moment.
All very normal.

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/05/2023 13:20

Luckily the country is functioning fine so the government imploding isn’t an issue. Hmm

Notonthestairs · 24/05/2023 13:22

WHAT?

Breaking:

Boris Johnson is severing ties with the government-appointed lawyers representing him at the Covid inquiry after he was referred to police

He has lost 'confidence' in the Cabinet Office

He's going to appoint his own legal team who will be funded by the taxpayer

twitter.com/steven_swinford/status/1661343370789232641?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Have we just written another bloody blank cheque to the arsehole that had spent the week in Las Vegas & Texas getting paid for god knows what,
Fuck me we love to throw taxpayers money around on pointless vanity projects.

DuncinToffee · 24/05/2023 13:25

This tweet says funding hasn’t been agreed yet

https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1661345520994996231?t=Qpn6JxWiqD4un2hMoW2DYw&s=19

Johnson looks to have dumped his government-appointed lawyers for the Covid inquiry.

In a letter published, he says "today, I am unrepresented" and he is "currently instructing new solicitors to represent me in the Inquiry" but Cabinet Office are yet to agree funding.

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DuncinToffee · 24/05/2023 13:31

Letters attached to this tweet

https://twitter.com/AnushkaAsthana/status/1661342791832674310?t=Qpn6JxWiqD4un2hMoW2DYw&s=19

I wonder who dumped who...

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RafaistheKingofClay · 24/05/2023 13:34

Clearly the inquiry weren’t impressed by the letter. They took the option to not delay for 48hrs and publish the letter.

DuncinToffee · 24/05/2023 13:41

integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level

Covid Inquiry threatening govt with criminal sanctions after it refused to provide:

* Boris Johnson's unredacted Whatsapps on a Covid-19 group plus exchanges with 40 govt figures including Sunak

* 24 notebooks by Boris Johnson from 1 Jan 2020 to 24 Feb 2022The Cabinet Office has rejected the request outright. It says that many of Boris Johnson's messages are 'unambiguously irrelevent'

It says handing them over would represent a 'serious intrusion of privacy' due to their 'informal and conversational nature' & breach human rights

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