Why do you think so many kids are so badly behaved?

[tikasaurois]

I'm mainly talking about high school age but I suppose kids of all ages are very different to when I was growing up (I'm 47) are we being too lax and not giving kids enough discipline? I'm a cleaner in a high school and honestly I find it disgusting how some children behave! Absolutely no respect or anyone or anything. Really rude, ignorant and downright disrespectful to everyone ( and I include the principal in this) why are the parents not doing more to reel their children in? Do parents not care? Are we as society failing these kids? Of course there are many wonderful well mannered children that are a pleasure to share company with but my question is why has behaviour deteriorated so much in schools and what can be done to help ?

Currently going through the teen years for the third time, would never have tolerated any of mine being disrespectful or rude to teachers. Never had any complaints about their behaviour. Oh and I’ve always worked, still managed to teach them manners and respect.

Indeed. Abusing children and dressing it up as 'discipline' is going to result in some really messed up adults. The fact that there are so many fucked up adults speaks volumes about previous generations.

Children with ADS and ADHD still need boundaries, often even more so.

Currently going through the teen years for the third time, would never have tolerated any of mine being disrespectful or rude to teachers. Never had any complaints about their behaviour. Oh and I’ve always worked, still managed to teach them manners and respect.

...happy for you?

The fact that there areso many fucked up adults speaks volumes about previous generations Yes!! And now they're parents / grandparents....

Yep. Which brings me back to 'unpleasant children are not a new phenomenon.'

I think there was lots of bad behaviour when i was at school too. One difference between now and when i was young is im sure a lot more people truanted.so i guess they werent in school causing problems. I also think more kids were just written off so they probably were shoved in set and left to do badly.

People are over sentimental and regard their children as lovely, fragile little pets, not realising that they have a responsibility to guide them towards being reasonable adults at the end of it all. This involves discipline, saying "no", exposing them to boredom, giving them age appropriate responsibilities and chores, challenging them and allowing them to be uncomfortable sometimes. These things are now deemed to be cruel and unreasonable so the result is often foul little narcissistic dictators who make everyone's life a misery and who refuse to grow up.

Kids these days, says every generation ever.

If the parents are A holes so are the kids. I don’t think it’s any different to any other generation, we’re just observing it now from a different POV. My child is 4 and the kids in preschool that have the issues and aren’t polite and think it’s ok to thump their friends etc and brought there by their like minded parents. Its not rocket science.

Parenting, pure and simple.

Most kids I see these days are allowed to set their own routines, bombarded with screens, noise and completely overstimulated all the time, and horribly tired thanks to cosleeping and lack of any form of discipline. And parents that spend most of their time interacting with their phone rather than their kids.

Not just kids now though. How many retail assistants, receptionists, teachers and nurses on here describe how they're routinely abused by adults? People's behaviour is getting worse.

I despair at the behaviour of my 7 year old. I set clear boundaries and I am not scared to say no. I always follow through with consequences. Despite this, he continues to defy me constantly / does ridiculously stupid things that put him in danger. At school he is overachieving, yet his behaviour at home can be shocking. His older sister (parented the same) is not disobedient in the slightest.

I feel completely lost and wouldn’t blame you for judging me when my son misbehaves in public, but I promise you it’s not for a lack of trying.

@CupEmpty That could have been my post a few years back. It just felt relentless. Don't beat yourself up. You are doing the best you can each day. It's bloody hard work. All of mine are in school now but during the holidays we still have meltdowns from the youngest. Also evenings can be very taxing.

We are awaiting autism assessment for the youngest.

I have always felt judged when my children play up when in the community but they do get told no regularly and are told off when it's required.

The kids I know who are little sh!ts have been exposed to things at a far too young age. DS is 8 and has friends who have been playing Minecraft since they were 5, watching 15 rated movies etc. They're violent to each other, swear etc and it's fairly obvious where it comes from. Parents seem to want their kids to grow up far too quickly.

My 4yo is awful. Throws stuff at me (not big stuff but it's still awful!), calls me names, is massively oppositional when I'm making basic requests. My older one is the complete opposite! I've tried so many different parenting techniques with them (with consistency) but nothing helps. It's awful!

I won’t what things will be like in the future. The amount of young toddlers and up who are sat in pushchairs/high chairs whilst out and about with a phone in front of them. Do they ever play together? Talk about what they see around them? How are these children going to manage in school when they have to sit and listen to a real human who isn’t like their YouTube videos and games?! Parents are glued to their phones too, I’m so glad the internet/mobiles were not around when my children were little.

Never MN kids though, oh no. Only everyone elses 🙄

Nothing changes

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
Socrates (469–399 B.C.)

Children spend c15% of their time at school. (6 hours a day, 5 days a week 39 weeks of the year).

But bad behaviour is expected to be fixed by teachers. Each teacher may only see them 4-5 hours a week. Which is 2% of a student's time.

But it is the school's fault/job to fix the rudeness. defiance, behaviour.....

Too many parents do not parent. They rely on schools to teach their children how to human.

😂

I'm not a teacher but I go into schools in a professional capacity.
I was just saying the other day 80 percent of high school kids are horrible. I don't apologise for using that word. They are rude, disrespectful and obnoxious. The "good" kids look like rabbits in headlights and I feel so sorry for them.
Contentious but if you are a parent there is an 80 per cent chance that your child is a disrespectful rude little brat.

Not your kids though?

I’m even amazed at the kids who come to our house and don’t say goodbye or thank you when they leave. Or I drop them home and they don’t say thank you. It doesn’t take much.

Children with ASD also need boundaries. Mine does.