Out of complete nosinesses, how much do teachers get paid?

[tikkakormaandsomerice]

So primary teachers
Secondary school teachers

What would they roughly get paid?

https://www.nasuwt.org.uk/advice/pay-pensions/pay-scales/england-pay-scales.html

Teacher pay scales are easily available online. Try googling this question...

https://neu.org.uk/pay-scales

Just google the pay scale. Depends which level you’re on. And if you have any leadership/sen responsibilities etc

Here you go

It’s not really enough is it for the level of responsibility. The new starting salary is good, but M6 is low.

Thanks so much. So to be at the upper end of the scale, you need to have extra responsibilities. Doesn't seem a massive amount for the work load/ stress of the job 😔

What are all the letter and numbers? Is it different banding, if so it it time served based?

No, all teachers without additional responsibilities progress eventually to up3 (upper pay scale) there is additional pay for additional responsibilities. I only know this because my sister is a teacher and had additional responsibilities before going into another pay scale for leadership.

The first pic is the extra pay for the extra responsibilities a teacher may take on. The second pic is the leadership pay scale

All teachers have responsibility for at least one subject. UPS is supposed to be a payment for experienced teachers but in reality, schools expect you to take on a meaty whole school responsibility to get UPS.

www.nasuwt.org.uk/advice/pay-pensions/pay-scales/pay-scales-fringe-outer-london-and-inner-london.html

depends where are

I have a few teacher friends & families on ups . They all have TLR things

Purely anecdata, but the job for Headteacher at our local primary school was advertised last Spring 2022 when the old one left as she was moving out of the area. Minimum 10 years teaching experience needed it said, and must have left their last school no longer than 12 months ago.

The salary... £57,000. North Midlands.

DD's friend (aged 33) has been a teacher for 7 years. (Not headteacher.) She teaches 11 to 12 year olds (English, and drama.) When she took the job (that she has been in for 18 months now,) it was advertised at £39,500 per year. West Midlands ...

You can see jobs & salaries here.

www.tes.com/jobs/browse/headteacher

@PrettyMaybug that seems a lot for someone so young.

Does it really? For seven years post-qualification in a profession which requires a higher postgraduate degree?

If this is about the current pay dispute, also compare what teachers in Scotland will earn compared to their English counterparts. I would be £10,000 a year better off if I taught in Scotland.

It is also important to note that while starting salary has increased quite a bit for teachers in England, the salary for experienced teachers has not so it's extremely difficult to retain staff in the profession.

NI pay scales are even worse 😐

Ridiculously low salaries for the amount of work and responsibility.

I will also add that I have been teaching for 20 years (primary) and am only on UPS1. Ironically I was on UPS2 over a decade ago but when I had my first child I wanted a part time job closer to home. Because pay portability was removed I couldn't find a suitable job on the upper pay scale so had to move back down. Then I had to go through the whole threshold process again. I should have moved up through the upper pay scale every two years since but my school makes you jump through endless hoops so I just don't bother.

It's not actually true that all teachers eventually reach UPS3. Some schools automatically progress teachers with minimal fuss but you do have to apply for /UPS. Some schools place unreasonable demands on staff to allow them to move to UPS. Some put many obstacles in the way.

Lots of teachers get stuck on M6. The schools I know make you jump through hoops to get on UPS so the poster who said all teachers get onto it is wrong. Lots of experienced UPS teachers are now being pushed out their jobs because they are deemed too expensive so it's almost safer to stay on m6.

I had to apply to the head and governors go from the main scale to the upper pay scale, it wasn’t automatic. I had to prove I added value and took on extra responsibility throughout the school.