Out of complete nosinesses, how much do teachers get paid?

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So primary teachers
Secondary school teachers

What would they roughly get paid?

Do you really think £40k is a lot for an experienced professional doing a high stress job providing a vital national resource?

How much would someone earn in law or banking with the same amount of experience?

If we want good people to go into and stay in public sector professions, the pay and conditions need to be better. Job security and the pension are not enough any more.

£144 a day primary supply. Refuse to work as a class teacher now, turned down many offers so far this term.

Was on mps5 in my last post after 10 years. They got rid of pay portability, so it depends if your new school accept the rate you were on before.

Some schools only advertise jobs for mps 1-3 to save money.

I used to be a secondary school teacher. My son wants to be a teacher. I am doing everything I can to discourage him, it is not a 'good' job anymore. Poor pay, no respect, bad working conditions and lack of support from management.

That's not true. Some teachers do get additional pay for additional responsibilities: very many do not. It's fairly unusual at primary to get a TLR. I lead Maths, Computing, Science and Assessment, am on the SLT, am DDSL, and frequently deputise for the Head. There's just no money in the budget for pay, especially given the bloody government dropped the last pay rise after the yearly budgets had been set but not actually funding it.

Forgive my cynicism but I’d love to know a bit more about OP’s motivation in posting.

When I’m feeling ‘nosy’ or idly curious about publicly available information I tend to Google it.

The problem is salaries are pretty shit in all sectors now.

Oh, there's a graph on that somewhere.... not true....

And even an ok salary doesn't go far because of the housing market. Myfriend says there's a real issue of retention of younger new teachers at her school because they can't afford to live longer whereas the senior staff who have been there a long time live locally.

I might be wrong but I think, quite rightly, that the sIze of school may determine pay for a HT. Big difference I think between being head of a school of 100 v 400 for example.

Well I think it should it matter if it doesn’t! I’ll have to ask at my school.

What does age have to do with it?

@Mariposa26 well I would have thought experience

My OH is a teacher. Qualified 2019. Covid put the kibosh on his first year where he only managed 1 term (very very hard to get jobs where we live, due to "low" cost of living). He earned 8k in that first year. No protection for him as he was on supply, albeit long term supply. He was screwed over.
He was paid £1650 per month in his next job, which was m1 (after tax, NI and student loans). Then when he got to m2 he had approx £1800 a month. He is now m3 and takes home around 2k both due to the pay rise and going to m3. He doesn't pay in to the pension because he can't afford it after getting in to debt to train, and the covid fuck up year. But otherwise his take home would be a bit less. It is shit really. For the amount of hours he does - he gets to work for 6am, home at 6pm (he just walked through the door as I typed that bit 🤣). He is also responsible for a subject.

You’re quite right. Headteachers’ pay is calculated in ranges depending largely on the size of the school. A primary headteacher is likely to earn a similar salary to a deputy of a medium-sized secondary or possibly even an assistant head of a large secondary.

I think you need to be able to blow fire out of your arsehole at an incredible speed to ever get to UPS.

This is simply not true. Different schools have massively different ways of applying UPS.

Isn’t M6 above the average UK current salary?

7 years is a fair bit of experience though, no?

I am nearly 7 years into my current profession (not as a teacher), and would describe myself as fairly experienced. Everyday is a school day though.

My friend has left teaching now due to the working conditons, but she was in a senior position about four years after qualifying.

Experienced teachers should surely get above average pay? You'd expect even many new graduates in grad professions to receive above average earnings.

Do you think you could do us all a massive favour and not post wildly inaccurate information based on a grand sample size of one? Ta.

Feel free to post lots of other ‘nosy’ threads to find out what other graduate professions are earning after seven years.

I’ve was on ups3 with tlr 1 in my 8-9th year of teaching. I got moved up the ups scale as a thank you for my hard work. Many good schools out there that recognise hard work from colleagues and provide professional development opportunities for them. Most of my department progressed to ups3 without any problems as a natural pay progression.

I teach at a boarding school in South East. Run a boarding house, so have my house provided and bills paid by employers. I also have additional areas of responsibility and I earn over 70k. It's a bit ridiculous honestly, but I have no life, work weekends and overnights.
Private sector can really pay a lot more, but I'm very disillusioned by it all tbh. Why should the boys and girls I teach have access to all this stuff and I be paid so much more than my state school counterparts? Thinking of leaving the sector altogether

Depends massively on where you live, as well as how experienced you are.

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I never trust googling it though. It always tells me they are on a really good wage then the media says they get peanuts.