Trigger warning - incomprehensible tragedy

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Two beautiful little boys strangled, and mother hung, and the boys looked so well cared for and loved, plenty of toys, nice clothes, lovingly photographed

I just cant bear to think of what went on in that house in those last moments, those poor poor children

How can this happen? How was this impossible to see coming?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65065560

You are correct, there is no point going back and forth with people that can understand why a mother/father regardless whether they have mental health issues or not can allegedly murder their innocent child/children

Nothing to do with women. It's people with mental health difficulties, regardless of their sex.

Perhaps the double standard comes from the abundant evidence that men:

a) Kill in an overwhelmingly higher proportion than women
b) Are violent in an overwhelmingly higher proportion than women
c) Commit family annihilation in an overwhelmingly higher proportion than women
d) Become violent towards their own children and/or their partners' children out of jealousy, shame or revenge an overwhelmingly higher proportion of times than women do, and and
e) when men and women kill, they overwhelmingly do it because of different motivations.

It's not outrageous, it is simply what happens most often, and what's happened most often in the history of human beings..

There are exceptions , but they are often only that, exceptions. Some years ago a woman in Spain killed her partner's son in cold blood because he was an inconvenience. The police caught her mocking the child's pet name while she transferred his body to another hiding place. It is one of those cases in which the woman was a cold-blooded monster who deserves to rot in hell.

Unsurprisingly, you won't find many cases like this.

None of those reasons justifies making excuses for this child murderer.

Absolutely, agree with you. But I am amused by the outraged reactions about why some posters would suggest this may be a mental health-related murder more than a cold-blooded murder.

I think you are wrong about the ‘overwhelmingly’ bits when it comes to homicide of children under age 18. Numerous studies have shown that as a global phenomenon- first parents are the most likely of all persons to murder a child (strangers least likely), and secondly the split between parents being almost 50/50 mothers to fathers. If you drill down by region, country and age of child there are some differences in mother/father ratio.

The same with violence towards children (physical child abuse)- pretty even split of mothers to fathers.

Motivations don’t really matter to me so much, because none of them are valid excuses for harming your child or children.

“Across all 35 countries with data on homicide perpetrators for all children under the age of 18 years, we found that more than half (median percentage 56.5, IQR 23.7–69.6) were murdered by a parent.”

“Data from 33 countries distinguishing the perpetrators of parental homicides of children under the age of 18 years showed that mothers committed just over half of all parental homicides (median 54.7%, IQR 36.7–68.8); in high-income countries, the median percentage was 44.4% (IQR 36.7–66.7), in the East Asia and Pacific region, 64.6% (IQR 59.0–69.3), in the Americas, 15.4% (IQR 13.3–17.4), in Africa, 88.6% (IQR 71.1–100.0), in low-income and middle-income Europe, 60.4% (IQR 45.8–75.0) and in the Mediterranean region, 7.4% (IQR 0.0–14.8).”
https://bmjpaedsopen.bmj.com/content/1/1/e000112

(please note parent excludes step-parents)

This surprises me but I dont know why. I have been a teacher for a long time, and have known of two children killed by a parent in a school where I work, and both times it was the mother

I should clarify, it is very rare, I haven't known two children who died like this, I have known of two children who died like this, one was 10 years before I arrived at the school and one slightly less, but an incident like this is never forgotton at the school where it happened, even after all the peers have grown up and left, and most of the teachers moved on too. In both cases there was a little, hidden memorial, one still tended by the teacher that knew the child, on tended by a teacher who hadn't known the child, but had promised a retiring teacher to keep it tended.

It is very heartbreaking. I just wish she would have dropped the kids off at their father. Or even left the house and leave them alone in the house. Neglect is better than murder.

As opposed to other posters on here, I have no problems reconciling the fact that this is a cold blooded murder and STILL could be mental health related.

We will never know what drove her to do this.

There's a possibility that she suffered from schizophrenia and heard voices that told her to do this. Would you still call her evil in this case?

I think there might be a difference in this case and the case of Chris Watts, who murdered his entire family to be with his mistress.

We will never know though.