Thread 21. Sunak. How many more will be deserting the sinking ship?

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Here we go. Previous thread.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4735780-thread-21-sunak-return-of-the-numpties?page=20&reply=124466839

A thread worth a read. It clearly sets out the Lineker debacle for me.

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Hi BBC
As a German I can tell you this: when politicians speak in a language not dissimilar to that used in 1930s Germany, I recognise it. Why? Because I have been taught about it all my life—and that it needs to be called out and rejected. It’s a duty to do so, in fact. A thread.....

Stella Creasy on Thursday

Buffer zones protected from the sabotage amendment 299 to 116 - that’s despite the Home Secretary, the minister and the attorney general all voting to try to stop women being able able to access an abortion in peace on amendment that their department negotiated…

Interesting to hear Suella Braverman citing a backlog of hundreds of thousands of immigration appeals in aid of her case. Given that the Home Office accepts that around 70% of those who apply for asylum are genuine, only a small proportion of those will be from boat arrivals, noted as 45K last year. So if there is that sort of backlog, that is due to massive inefficiency in the system at least as much as numbers of appeals. There are fee paid immigration judges available to deal with appeals who are being left for long periods without being called on, so the only explanation for the backlog has to be that the government doesn't want to pay the judges. Yet they can pay millions to Rwanda for sod all.

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So there's been a series of PMQs questions complaining about 'extreme' sex education in schools.

These seem to have been kicked off a think tank founded by Tories Miriam Cates and Danny Kruger.

You will be STUNNED to learn they're not quite as advertised.

I thought that the 72 genders and choking were probably lies. FFS why make this shit up, it totally gets in the way of having proper discussions.

My yr 7 son came home frome school very confused and generally ranting because he'd been told there were loads of genders in a PSHE lesson. He said "about a hundred". So I'm not sure it is lies, but I also don't think they are being taught it as "fact". I think its being taught more as a belief.

Here's a link - original source daily telegraph. There was a thread in FWR about it
dailysceptic.org/2023/02/27/isle-of-man-suspends-sex-education-classes-after-drag-queen-tells-11-year-olds-there-are-73-genders/

I don't want to derail the the thread, but will just ask whether you spoke to yhe school about it and if so what did they say?

No I didn't bother. I talked to DS about his views on it and left it there.
TBH I'm happy the children being taught that some people believe there are 72 genders and what that might mean, and being able to discuss it.
I'd be unhappy if it was being taught as "fact" and kids being told to leave if they disagreed, as in the IoM case.

I actually think the Tories have bought this on themselves by breaking the LA system and giving the schools more freedom to bring in a range of "advisors", rather than using a centrally approved pool. There seems to be some rather dubious "educational charities" out there that present quite biased views to children.

Yeah, I think I agree with you, Adam.

Yes, I think what you think adam.

I read that thread about Lineker yesterday. It's great.

I think he was actually quite cautious in what he said. Let's face it, test DM article shows us it wasn't just in Germany that that language was being deployed in the 1930s.

PHSE material is ridiculously variable across topics and providers.

Rishi and the far right, sitting in a tree...

Harsh but fair' - Italy's far-right deputy PM Matteo Salvini praises Sunak's illegal migration bill
Angela Giuffrida
Italy’s deputy prime minister Matteo Salvini has praised Rishi Sunak’s anti-immigration measures as “harsh but fair”.

In a post on Instagram, Salvini, leader of the far-right League, quoted a tweet by Sunak, translated into Italian, in which Sunak said: “If you arrive illegally in the UK, you can’t claim asylum; you can’t benefit from our modern slavery protections; you can’t make spurious human rights claims; you can’t stay”.

Beneath the post, Salvini wrote:

Words from the UK prime minister. Harsh but fair.

Salvini, who turned 50 today, will attend a cabinet meeting later today in Cutro, the Calabrian town close to where 72 people are confirmed to have died in a shipwreck.

The meeting comes as debate rages over cabinet is expected to toughen measures against people smugglers while loosening bureaucracy for foreign workers to enter Italy via legal routes.

From the Guardian.

Heartbreaking

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As she has done every year on or near International Women's Day, Jess Phillips reads the names of all of the women who have been murdered in the last year.

£350million a week for the NHS.

Complete,y agree with this

It is. The youngest was 15, the oldest 92. That really hits home.

It’s incredibly moving. Needless to say, she’s being derided elsewhere. I hate MN sometimes.

I have seen what some are saying about Brianna Ghey being included. I can't understand the venom. It is disgusting.

It really is. This is what people mean when they say MN can be very transphobic. Because quite simply it's true.

Dacre was rejected by the appointments watchdog last year.
But Johnson has resubmitted his name - of course he would. He needs Dacre, as does Sunak -

"The potential elevation of Dacre is likely to pose a dilemma for Sunak. As editor-in-chief of DMG Media and a former editor of the Daily Mail, Dacre is one of the most powerful media executives in the country, and the backing of his papers could help decide the next election in Sunak’s favour."

Wonder how far that "integrity & professionalism" will stretch this time.

www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/09/boris-johnson-again-nominates-daily-mail-chief-paul-dacre-for-peerage

Go Yasmin - “Teddy boy Tories”!

Still laughing at Fiona Bruce explaining that BBC presenters like her have to remain impartial.

That was a joke. Jenrick is an idiot who doesn't seem to know anything. His argument about refugees in France coming here was flawed but yet again unchallenged and still he looks out of his depth.

It's all they've got- sex education putting themselves in opposition to Labour (so they frame it)

And immigration - showing themselves as just like the Reform Party (or whatever they call themselves now).

Think the Tories are currently worried they're going to be split asunder by the Reform Party. Maybe even come in behind them. The Tories have done Brexit. It hasn't solved their problem. So they need to go hard on immigration. Plenty of head banger MPs to come up with stuff.