Clemmie Hooper Facing Midwifery Misconduct Hearing

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I've not yet seen any other threads on this.

It's not yet clear why there's a heating but it would be interesting to read the decision by the Nursing and Midwifery Council when it's posted online. The hearing ends 8th March.

I'm wondering if the racism she trolled with played out in her work?

This was absolutely awful and I'm glad it's being taken seriously by the NMC. Given Candice Braithwaite's birth experience that she shared in her interview, what kind of a hard bitch uses that as a weapon against a black woman rather than use her platform to support black women who are statistically more vulnerable in childbirth?
I didn't rate her much even before that, I read her book (Clemmie's) when she was still a big deal and found her attitude towards women and their postpartum bodies to be fairly unpleasant, IIRC.

We don’t know what the disciplinary is about. I followed another midwife who was struck off for working night shifts as an agency worker and day shifts in her usual job with no rest time, and an with overlap so she was being paid twice for the time the shifts overlapped.

True, it could be something else.

Wrt delayed disciplinary action, if its that, the NMC are clear there's no time limit but the later you leave it to complain the more difficult it may be. I'm not sure how that works wrt pandemic related delay.

I don’t understand this story at all. I must be so out of touch 😀

I wondered if anything would ever come of her racism re the NMC. Glad they seem to have taken note

I've never heard of her. What did she actually do?

I remember hearing about her trolling people (including her husband) at the time. Really weird behaviour. I wonder if that is what it’s related to. Anyway after that I don’t know how anyone could trust her again.

Wow I remember following her fall from grace. The husband went onto do a home interiors style instagram and as much as I love interior design I just couldn't follow him. Their children have been exploited for years to make them money. All I see is their wealth is on the back of their girls exposure.

I’ve name changed for this for reasons that will become clear.

I have extensive experience of working within the NMC and particularly within their professional regulation department.

I am aware of this case and the charges that will be brought against the registrant but it’s not my place to disclose that at this time. Unless the registrant successfully argues at the hearing that the determination should be kept private, perhaps due to matters of health then assuming there is a case to answer the full reasoning will be published on the NMC website, normally within a week or so.

In terms of the age of the case, the pandemic caused a huge backlog as the NMC suspended contact with trusts so as not to increase pressure. By that I mean they only asked for information deemed necessary to determine whether an interim order was needed (to assess risk) rather than request other information to progress cases so that Trusts could concentrate their efforts clinically. Obviously during this time referrals continued to flow in so the backlog built up.

Re the natural justice aspect and things occurring as close as possible to events I agree it is preferable, however the NMC assesses cases on two premises, are they a risk to the public (poor/dangerous practice) and public interest (damage to the reputation of the profession/regulator) sometimes cases might meet both thresholds but it doesn’t automatically stand that justice must occur swiftly in order to protect the public as often interim orders are implemented or it may be a case where actually the registrant hasn’t displayed any unsafe practice but their actions may be unbecoming of a registered professional and action needs to be taken to uphold the public interest.

hope that’s been a bit helpful.

@chanceofpear if you Google her it will all be there, but basically she was an influencer and NHS midwife who started off giving midwifery advice but then got a bit too big for her boots and turned into a fashion/interiors/will advertise any old shit online persona. Then she created a tattle account which she used to slag off her friends and her own husband, and got found out and swiftly disappeared off the face of the earth.

The home interiors account (which is tired and unoriginal - can you tell how little I think of this pair?!) is clearly run by Clemmie. Although he has treated its subscribers to some dodgy DIY tips.

lets hope they include a toxicology report!

The NMC can only look into allegations made, they can’t really go on a fishing trip, if health, by way of drug/alcohol addiction is raised in mitigation then they can request blood/hair testing but if there is otherwise no suggestion they can’t just cast the net as wide as possible and see what sticks.

And also, the registrant must consent to any testing.

Black women are significantly more likely to die in child birth so I think it's almost impossible to believe that her racist trolling didn't have an impact. Even if it was just through prejudice. I hope she get what's coming to her.

And it’s exactly her sort of flippant racism that does the damage. Medical staff aren’t marching into labour wards and hurling insults at pregnant women of colour, but the harm happens when their concerns are taken less seriously, their pain underestimated etc. It’s micro issues.

Clemmie had of course not long finished saying how great Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race was and how it had made her realise how wrong she’d been about things (although I don’t think she was willing to say what those things were when asked). So extra huge surprise when she talked about the ‘race card’ being played in her anonymous account.

She’s a midwife in a hugely mixed area. I would not want her as my midwife.

That’s so helpful, thank you.

I feel so fascinated by the whole saga, it feels like a kind of early series of big brother or something but with with much worse consequences for all involved.

She and her husband are really heinous people and I really want them evicted from all tge privilege Instagram has allowed them. Interesting theory fod was in on it all along

Sorry, didn’t link properly, that was to @Thingsiknow excellent intel

She really was at the height of her game as an instagrammer. The year leading up to this they got mega expensive holidays free. She was caught posing as another person due to being tracked in St Lucia where she was on a freebie holiday. I hope they throw the book at her due to the racism. I know we are short of midwife’s but I wouldn’t want someone with those morals in charge of me at such a important moment

This is my feeling too.

Her anonymous, trolling comments about Candice Braithwaite using her race card were so wrong of a midwife. If she holds those views, it's scary. It's true that black women are more likely to die in labour, it's also true their pain is not taken as seriously. A medical professional who is ignorant of that is dangerous, especially considering Candice shared her real life experience on a podcast episode they'd done together.

In my opinion, her husband is likely to have known. That's no way my husband could get past me trolling him and calling him insufferable, nor the incident above or just trolling anyone at all. He's got to have known what kind of person she was already.

I thought it would be in relation to something else so thank you to the pp shedding light on the backlog. It makes sense now.

Side point on this - I think she was unmasked on tattle due to her location while posting. I always thought that was possibly a data protection issue?

I’m a regulatory lawyer. Wrt comments on the fairness of a delayed ‘disciplinary’, NMC proceedings are separate to any internal Trust-level disciplinary hearing. It’s a ‘fitness to practise’ matter rather than disciplinary per se and in fact the NMC’s role is not a punitive one, but rather to ensure the public is protected/ the reputation of the profession is upheld.

The NMC is not bound by any previous findings by the employer and indeed must generally disregard the conclusions of the local investigation I.e. they reach an independent decision and so internal findings should not influence / determine their decision.

The NMC have also recently overhauled their guidance on how ‘seriousness’ is determined. Certain factors, such as dishonesty, sexual misconduct or discrimination are significant aggravating factors. Unless there are exceptional circumstances, if allegations of racism are found proved I would expect a finding of impairment and likely a very serious sanction, possibly removal from the register.

Re pandemic delays, most NMC investigative work had to be put on hold temporarily during the first part of covid as NHS staff obviously had an emergency situation to contend with - naturally there is a huge backlog to work through…

Honestly the pair of them need to step away from social media.

He posted about buying their child alcohol at the weekend. He also complained about her not filling the car up. Imagine doing that the weekend before the hearing. Just as bad as each other and addicted to attention.

Even before covid nmc hearings could take 4-5 years to actually get heard. The nmc are failing registrants and the public massively thought they have taken steps to increase number of hearings and the backlog is getting less. Not sure if she’s been suspended or not while waiting. I’m a midwife, I am horrified by some of the stuff she has said!