Thread 5 - TalkExiles: "The Planet Goes On Being Round"

[Kucinghitam]

Continuation of previous lifeboat threads (thread 4).

Gather here all ye refugees from the JTT Flat Earth Society, welcome to the reassuringly oblate spheroid of MN! Ye all already know the answers to the questions "How the heck do I format my post?" "Why can't I edit my typos?" "What do those acronyms mean?" and most importantly, "Where is everybody that I used to know?"

So really we're all here just to chat randomly.

I have no intention of going back. It wasn’t just JtS who hounded us out so as far as I’m concerned nothing’s changed.

It would be an apt monument to the whole caper if that thread just sat there with nothing other than the opening post.

That would be very funny. Like the feminism-not-feminism thread which is about as vanilla as semi-skimmed milk and has a lot less flavour.

It wasn’t just JtS who hounded us out so as far as I’m concerned nothing’s changed.

Yes we really saw what some people are actually like. It found them out. And they remain found out so far as I'm concerned. And still JTS is getting plaudits and fawning and oh Johnny thank you SO much for all you did for us. This the man who threatened to pull the plug within weeks leaving many who rely on that site left high and dry. I'm not talking about us. I'm talking about people who use the carers' thread, the recovering alcoholism, depression, tech support and the thread for parents of children with special needs. Whether he likes it or not JTS had a duty of care to those posters. He behaved appallingly.

amen

I’m finding it very glitchy, lots of thinking dots and “failed to fetch posts” and then wouldn’t post my posts, so I’ll leave it for a while and hope it improves.

I know who all three named directors are. If I can work them out I'm pretty sure anyone else can. Surely that's a privacy issue/data breach!? I won't name them here. But suffice it to say I am appalled!

yes, I think everyone worked like crazy to get it up and running, then saw the snag list grow and grow. The techies are probably all lying down in darkened rooms and hoping someone else will fix it. Simpler to give it a day or two to work itself out.

I'm feeling slight optimism for the first time since JtS started the shitstorm - intelligent and effective women at the top might just trickle down to slightly better behavior on the site, and maybe even an attempt to get some new people in. Though there still seems to be a deranged suggestion that the contentious subject should be confined to one thread - no-one who has tasted the variety here is going to be content with that, so it probably will go unmentioned - unless they get newbies (which would be lovely).

In tribute to an excellent thread in this place I'm going to have pate on toast for lunch.

The doxxing is really shocking Lawls. I already had a very low opinion of that man, but that really shocked me.

He did one good thing 11 years ago, bully for him, that was a long time ago, then let the site fester and lost many good posters.

I don't imagine that the doxxing is malicious, but it seems clumsy at best.

But it's hard to care that much.

It was an odd farewell, both for the details and for the need to reference far right/billionaire culture wars. Is it really so difficult to imagine that other people can just hold a different view without it being linked to extremism or some form of conspiracy?

Billionaires, you say, JtS?

Lots of billionaires in the TRA world. Joyce has details and this is from her book.

This pattern of funding helps explain the gap between trans campaign groups’ rhetoric and the policies they pursue. The talk is about the world’s downtrodden: poor, homeless trans people forced into survival sex work, lacking health care and harassed by the police. But the money comes in large part from the world’s most powerful people: rich, white American males. The two groups’ needs and desires barely overlap at all.

Joyce, Helen. Trans (p. 243). Oneworld Publications. Kindle Edition.

Think there’s a weasel in the living room, brought in by a cat, looked like a weasel hanging down on either side of the dog’s mouth, now I can see no weasel in anyone’s mouth and 2 cats and 2 dogs staring at the dark space under the sofa. Fucking cats. (Can’t blame the dogs, it’s never them who bring in these wonderful wild rarely-seen creatures.)

I think I would be more than a little freaked out by there being a weasel in the living room.

A weasel? How exciting!

Makes me think of this classic:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/mumsnet_classics/1773548-I-really-struggle-to-get-my-head-round-weasels

You can weasely tell cos they're stoatally different.

Also, as far as I remember I always found my uncle’s donkey really scary. Mind, I also found that uncle (really my great uncle) quite scary but I think he wasn’t as stern as he seemed he just didn’t speak English much and I don’t speak Welsh.

Well that sent me off to google weasels and I realise I had no clear idea what they looked like but imagined something more in the scale of a badger (I was wondering about the whole weasel in a cat’s mouth thing). My knowledge of countryside matters is sadly lacking (despite spending lots of times on my (non-scary) unlce’s farm as a child).

They are unfeasibly long and narrow.

And I’ve only ever seen IRL them c/o my cats.

If I had no cats I’d have never seen a weasel, and d’you know what, I think I could live with that.

On JTT, there are threads and posters I miss but on the whole the glee with which anyone posting on that one thread was drive out was what made me leave (having only ever read the thread) and I doubt more than a handful of people (if that) will have noticed I’ve gone.

We don't have weasels in Ireland but our stoats are small. We do have pine martens. I would hate to have a lurking mustelid in my living room. I did have a visiting ferret once, but managed to lure it into a trap using cat food (poor thing was hungry) and found a man who wanted a ferret so all was good.

From the pictures my google search delivered, they look quite cute. Still not something I’d want hiding under my sofa though.

A lot smaller than you would think, your weasel.

My oldest granddaughter in NJ has a pet ferret but I am not a ferret fan. They always look unpleasantly snaky to me.

An entire family of weasels, ma and pa and three little 'uns, crossed the road in front of our car, years ago, to our great joy. The little ones were a bundle of fighting fur that seemed to roll across the road, one adult in front and one behind. As they disappeared into the bushes, one adult stayed and simply looked straight at us and sort of chattered chack-chack-chack at us before he or she turned around and disappeared. It was wonderful and that bit of road has ever since been "Weasel Bend" in our family.