Thread 21 Sunak, Return of the Numpties

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And so we continue.

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UK Govt defeated in the Lords by 285 to 209 votes on the Public Order Bill.

Lords deny power to police to stop and search without suspicion.

This is a big defeat for the govt, victory for civil rights.

The UK has really come to something when it's the Lords who are upholding sense, reason and civil rights.

Bliss it was in that dawn to be alive

And to be young was very heaven.

Or it would have been. I was a jubilant middle aged woman exactly the same age as the newly elected PM. I might not have survived the ecstasy if I’d been young as well!

More defeats for the Gov

Govt defeated on the Public Order Bill by the Lords; 283 to 192

Lords refuse powers for the police to arrest journalists/bloggers reporting on or observing a protest.

and

Lords defeat UK govt attempt to criminalise those who demonstrate on roads and highways

The vote is 248 to 239.

twitter.com/premnsikka/status/1623017115060998160?t=KEi_xm6tbAFCQufGNF0MzA&s=19

The Home Secretary opposes an amendment to the public order bill designed to protect journalists reporting on protests
twitter.com/StevePeers/status/1623027394528350230?t=VNmp6SdLD1T4Qnoj2Y0lnw&s=19

Ofcourse she would

So they are happy to try and whip against the amendment.

But not willing to withdraw the whip from Mone 💰🛥️

They might have had more success getting Mone's whip removed.

Thank fuck for the Lords (on this occasion at least).
@Blossomtoes I usually stay up on election night where possible. The joke in our house is that the TV in my bedroom is only ever used on election nights where I have to work the next day, I put the news on quietly and listen to it with my eyes closed. This time I will be up through the night.

I would love to get involved with the count one year but wouldn't have a clue how to go about volunteering my services.

Maybe the new new housing minister will sort out secure housing for the 227,000 people currently homeless so that the dc can settle in a school and thrive. Or maybe they will prove just as adept at making the number bigger.

Just caught up.

Thank goodness for the lords and common sense prevailing.

Carol sums up today in Tory

Where do we begin?

Greg Hands
BP profits
Lee "1970s" Anderson
BBC Chairman Richard Sharp explaining how helping Johnson's financial losses out, wasn't at all what it actually was!
JUSTICE Secretary RAAB accused of even more bullying by senior Civil Servant

One day in Tory world

Greg Hands suggesting GE in the next 18 months.

twitter.com/kitty_donaldson/status/1623074779610636288?s=46&t=YOIIuY4RjJitIpAJ9DMftA

Can't come soon enough.

Can well remember the many times I've had a thumping heart when the polls close and the BBC announces it's exit poll. Usually to be followed immediately by great despair

We have a date @L1ttledrummergirl!

Belated placemark

A date for a GE? No, we just have the last possible date it could be. Many of us live in hope that somehow it will be sooner.

Off to work in a bit.

Cannot wait to get home and read all your comments on PMQs today.

And catch up.

I think I'll need chocolate to get through it due to the clusterfuck that is our current governance - but that won't my diet any good.

Unless frustration burns calories

It doesn't matter when the date is for me. The day after the election (whenever it is) will be kept free. I'll take holiday from work if needed, the nature of my job (zero hours contract) means it's not an issue when I'm off, there are no constraints. It's one of the things I like about the job, the flip side is no job security which I don't like but for me, right now the positives outweigh the negatives. Covid and no work was a bitch though as there was no furlough pay- thanks Richi Sunak for that.

I remember going into work that morning in 1997 & you could literally feel the joy in the air it was palpable, was as though the country had let out a collective sigh of relief that Labour had won.

Eighteen months seems like a very long time to endure this shambles.
itsgettingweird - if frustration burnt calories I think I would be quite lithe!

They've got the time to sort out their redundancy payments and they want to give themselves medals - WTF. From the Guardians live feed

Commons committee suggests more generous redundancy payments, and perhaps medals, for MPs leaving parliament
The Commons administration committee has published a report on what can be done to better support MPs as they leave parliament. Its main argument is about the loss of office payment, which the committee says compares unfavourably with the sort of redundancy payment other equivalent professionals get when they lose their jobs, but the item attracting most attention is a proposal for medals for outgoing MPs

But they're not redundant, in that their role is still there. If anything they are dismissed from the role as a new person is appointed to it.
The point of redundancy payment is to give you time to get a new job, this does not really apply to MPs as the only reason they lose their job is because their constituents don't vote for them to continue in it.
If your job is politics, and you're not good enough at it to get votes, you shouldn't get a payout for that.

My Tory MP is redundant. He hasn't knowingly represented the views of his constiuents in parliament in the time he has been an MP. Prefering to represent the views of those in Moscow and Riyadh who help pay his childern's school fees. (At least some of what I have said are even his own words!).

Boris Johnson has received £2.5m in advance for speeches, meaning he has received earnings, hospitality and donations worth more than £5m since leaving office six months ago.

The Times headline reads that Lee Anderson backs the death penalty

Just nother day in Tory land.

And now we know why they want us out of the echr.

Get ill- assisted suicide.
Get old- the same
Commit a crime- execution (remember protesting is to be a crime)

Basically, if you cease to be productive enough to make the rich more money you are disposable. How long before being poor is a crime? There are people saying that the poor need to do community service like prisoners so not so far fetched.
How long before failure to pay council tax is criminalised? Something we all gave to pay and have no control over.

Written down it sounds like a conspiracy theory, or from a dystopian novel, but baby steps are heading in that direction.