Thread 21 Sunak, Return of the Numpties

[DuncinToffee]

And so we continue.

Previous thread

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4699406-thread-20-sunak-and-the-winter-of-discontent?page=1

I know it's not really in the news much currently because of other stories (and hopefully the crisis has slowed) but what is happening in the NHS should be on every front page in my view.

Thread from Shaun Lintern
"Ambulance worker Daniel Waterhouse turned whistleblower and filmed undercover during the NHS winter crisis for @C4Dispatches. He talks to The Sunday Times about why he did it:"

twitter.com/shaunlintern/status/1632303008473141248?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Dsil should have had 4 nurses and 3 hcs on her ward on her last shift. She had 2 and 2. This is why they are striking. That was not a strike day.

Ugh. 30 p Lee again

twitter.com/LeeAndersonMP_/status/1632307623910416384

What IS this awful new narrative that male asylum seekers are cowards who should be fighting? In Syria, perhaps? For which dictator or terror organisation would Lee like them to fight?

I've seen this bandied about on MN recently too - using men fighting in Ukraine as a template of acceptable foreign male behaviour.

Coal mining was a reserved occupation and there was a shortage of miners - I think 20,000 + men ended up being conscripted in to mining.

But yes the new narrative is that any man fleeing his country is a coward. Anderson is headline hunting again.

Sounds like Lee's grandad was a twat too.

I actually cheered up seeing all the ripostes on Twitter about mining, about WW2 soldiers wo opposed all that Lee stands for, ,and about Polish and Czech fighters in the RAF.

Boris can't have misled parliament. No one in their right mind believes a word he says.

Oh hang on, there is a flaw in that line of reasoning clearly these Heat onHarris chap and Mad Nad do believe. I take it back he did mislead parliament.

Did we know before that Johnson has recommended his Dad for a knighthood or maybe joked about it?
It doesn't seem all that surprising (but not for the right reasons).

Morning. I see we are in for another round of let's distract the thick bigots by demonising migrants. (Cue a few bot threads on MN I expect).

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/05/rishi-sunaks-plan-for-small-boats-will-lock-up-people-fleeing-war

Has the Rwanda plan been abandoned?

I hate this government with all my being. They should all be locked up.

I can't believe this will happen. I seriously will take to the streets if his father (wife beater, covid lockdown flouter) gets an honour. At the moment, BJ's honours list has been held up, I hope someone somewhere has got some sense.

Just a knighthood? Not the full on Baronetcy with inheritance rights? Whyever not Bozo? We need to have Johnsons in public life. What will future generations do without a Lord Johnson to follow as an example? Bring on Baron Stanley and make sure he's got enough cash to live up to his name. Wouldn't want him scraping around begging cash from anyone with deep pockets. Like his son does.

This sums it up though -

"One former minister said: “The proposals, if you believe the briefings and the leaks, are a joke and I just cannot see how they will get on to the statute. They look like an attempt to go into the general election with some clear blue water between us and Labour. Propose a hardline law, have it stopped by the EU and the courts, blame lefty lawyers and Labour for being soft on immigration.”

It's posturing to grab some headlines.

It's not a serious government that wants to resolve issues with practical solutions.

It's a pretence at governing focused on providing enough material for the Mail/Telegraph/Express and something to feed their base.

It's not been abandoned, officially anyway, but I wonder if this nonsense from Rishi might be based on him understanding that the Rwanda plan is never going to work like they want.

Re: Stanley Johnson.
How many more members of Johnson's family will be nominated?
First Jo, then Stanley, Rachel or Wilf next?
We could just rename it House of Johnson and have done with it (although I suspect the bar bill would be even more astronomical).

As David Allen Green tweets

Small boats.

Another day of beefing up and cracking down, toughening up and clamping down, up and down, and up and down, yet going nowhere.

Trying to address a problem by words and images alone.

Policy and law as magic, press releases as spells.

On bbc news, they mentioned something about the costs of returning failed asylum seekers, a charter flight pp costing more than a first class flight to NY.

The Rwanda plan seems to have been shelved to 2024

There is a thread on the new "plan". I need to stay off it or I will 🤯🤯🤯

Me too

Hmmmm, maybe they get should get tougher on knighthoods. Standards have really fallen. I haven't seen a knight jousting on a horse for ages.

It's sickens me that a few thousand immigrants crossing the channel is so high on the government's agenda.

Meanwhile schemes to protect the environment are being dropped. Social mobility is decreasing. There's a horrendous problem with housing. The economy is suffering. The NHS is suffering. Poverty is increasing,

But hey, Rishi has put illegal immigrants at the top of the list.

At school I sit next to a lady from Eritrea. She came to Sweden with her son as an asylum seeker. She's told me a little about her journey and the little that she has told me is absolutely horrific. She travelled across the Sahara with her 4 year old son, watched people being raped and murdered, crossed the Med in a small boat. She came to Sweden as her sister was here. It took so long that by the time she arrived and claimed asylum her daughter back home had turned 19 and so wasn't allowed to join her. She's now permanent seperated from her daughter, unless her daughter attempts the same journey.

I also have a young man in class who's from Afghanistan. His family fled to Iran where his parents send him on alone as they couldn't travel further. He made his own way to Turkey, crossed in a boat to Italy and then eventually reached Sweden. He couldn't read or write, having never been to school, and only had a few words of English that other asylum seekers taught him along the way. He was 12 when he started this journey and it took him 2 years to reach Sweden. All on his own.

I cannot comprehend the position of the British government and a large section of the British population and their utter lack of empathy for their fellow human beings. Global Britain my arse!

I can't even imagine how difficult & isolating those journeys were.

I know the word inhumane gets bandied about a lot but that is where we are at.

JOB just said that Wilfred is in line for a peerage? That can’t be true can it?

I found an article from a couple of years back stating the same but surely this is all satire?

But it works, sadly. You only have to read the current thread running. It is vile.

Poor Rachel....