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Another child killed by a dog

332 replies

NeverTrustAPoliceman · 31/01/2023 22:11

Breaking news now. When is this going to stop?

Rip little one.

OP posts:
Sep200024 · 31/01/2023 22:49

Soothsayer1 · 31/01/2023 22:46

and as usual all the loved up dog apologists are here already

Any sensible and responsible dog owner would want everything possible to be done to ensure such violent and tragic deaths could not happen.

So I will assume that anyone who does not support interventions and legislation is not a sensible or responsible dog owner.

IDontCareMatthew · 31/01/2023 22:49

I'm a dog lover. Not bothered what people think about that I'm really not

It's not being an 'apologist' though, you are clutching there!!

My thoughts are there are too many dogs in shelters and being bred. Neutering and dog licences might help rather than a designated police force

WhoNeedsSleepNotISaidMyBody · 31/01/2023 22:50

Floofyduffypuddy · 31/01/2023 22:41

We need specially trained police then to start a mission to look for dangerous dogs. ..

We don't have enough police to police the streets as it is.

LastOfTheChristmasWine · 31/01/2023 22:50

Soothsayer1 · 31/01/2023 22:47

anyone who has a dog or comes into contact with a dog should get a good understanding of these things
NO !!
KEEP THE DAMN THING UNDER CONTROL !!

Understanding what your dog is trying to tell you is a part of keeping your dog under control.

For instance, if you can see that a dog is uncomfortable with what a child is doing, you can separate the two and prevent an incident.

Your statement makes about as much sense as someone saying "learn the highway code" and you saying "no, drive within the law!"

kitsuneghost · 31/01/2023 22:50

XenoBitch · 31/01/2023 22:43

If we would need tests prior to getting a dog, then surely there should be tests prior to someone wanting a child?
A child brought up the wrong way can also cause a lot of harm as an adult.

Absolutely agree

dustydewdrop · 31/01/2023 22:51

WomanFromTheNorth · 31/01/2023 22:48

Well said 👏

Point 2. Yes I get that but what about these poor kids that are mauled when they’re out minding their own business. There was a recent attack on a boy in America which was absolutely horrific and he’d just been out playing on his bike in his neighbourhood.

Sep200024 · 31/01/2023 22:51

XenoBitch · 31/01/2023 22:43

If we would need tests prior to getting a dog, then surely there should be tests prior to someone wanting a child?
A child brought up the wrong way can also cause a lot of harm as an adult.

A bit weird, but okay.

Floofyduffypuddy · 31/01/2023 22:52

I've been around dogs and we had an alsatian cross growing up.

However I was only made fully aware of the utter blond selfishness of other dog owners as an owner myself of the most beautiful little bichon cross.

She would greet anyone by running up and on her hind legs pawing people.

Some people complained and I grumped how DARE they! Untill one day a Labrador was pawing and jumping at me because I had dogs treat and the owner just looked and carried on conversation!
Whilst this large muddy dog was jumping up at me .

after that I realise the other side and my dog for bitten just after the " don't worry he is friendly line"

Floofyduffypuddy · 31/01/2023 22:52
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BitOutOfPractice · 31/01/2023 22:53

Im prepared to bet my mortgage that none of the dogs that have killed people on the last 25 years in the uk have been anywhere near a trainer if a behaviourist. So regulating those industries will not make one jot of difference to these grim statistics.

you might as well say we need to tighten up on driving instructors to reduce the amount of uninsured drivers on the road.

SoupDragon · 31/01/2023 22:54

I can't believe someone's trying to compare a dog to a car 😂😂

ToBeOrNotToBee · 31/01/2023 22:54

Floofyduffypuddy · 31/01/2023 22:47

First off the banned breeds. I believe pit balls are distinctive by their ears and I see a few around here.

So train officers on that. Give them powers to test the dog dna

A general drive to look for younger people usually men walking with massively straining dogs on leash or without. Talk to them...backed up with law's around training.

Well isn't this the most idiotic thing I've ever read.

Emmamoo89 · 31/01/2023 22:54

MargaritaRita · 31/01/2023 22:37

Next up.... it's not bad dogs it's bad owners. This nation is obsessed with pets and animals, often to the detriment of humans.

It is bad owners. Don't get me wrong some breeds are dangerous and should be banned. But there's only a few. But mostly is it down to how the owner raises them

Baconand · 31/01/2023 22:55

So sad. It’s always irresponsible people that cause this, not dogs.
It’s so often on a sink estate, rare you hear of similar in a nice leafy suburb (I know MK well). Avoidable tragedies.

Sep200024 · 31/01/2023 22:56

I can’t understand why so many dog lovers are so against any sort of legislation.

I absolutely adore my dogs. They are my world.

But anything which can reduce the chances of things like this happening has my full support.

Wimbz20 · 31/01/2023 22:56

People on here going on about "signals when a dogs not happy"

Are you kidding me ??? Babies, toddlers and small children and still grasping things like potty training, feeding themselves and playing with play dough and you want them to read dog signals too?? Get real seriously.

kitsuneghost · 31/01/2023 22:56

@lastofthechristmaswine
You can't say everyone who comes into contact with dogs needs educated. It would be fair enough if coming into contact with dogs was a choice. We have no choice in whether we are subjected to dogs or not. There is no dog free outdoor space anywhere in my town.

SoupDragon · 31/01/2023 22:57

Sep200024 · 31/01/2023 22:49

Any sensible and responsible dog owner would want everything possible to be done to ensure such violent and tragic deaths could not happen.

So I will assume that anyone who does not support interventions and legislation is not a sensible or responsible dog owner.

sensible and responsible dog owners are not the problem.

kitsuneghost · 31/01/2023 22:58

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Sep200024 · 31/01/2023 22:59

SoupDragon · 31/01/2023 22:57

sensible and responsible dog owners are not the problem.

But with some legislation in place, it would not be so easy for irresponsible owners to get hold of (and keep hold of) a dog.

Saying that some people will get them anyway just means we may as well not have any laws then. Some people will always ignore them.

IDontCareMatthew · 31/01/2023 23:01

Floofyduffypuddy · 31/01/2023 22:41

We need specially trained police then to start a mission to look for dangerous dogs. ..

How would that work? Police just roaming randomly in case they see what? A certain breed? Which ones?

Who will pay for that?

Flowerfairy101 · 31/01/2023 23:01

kitsuneghost · 31/01/2023 22:56

@lastofthechristmaswine
You can't say everyone who comes into contact with dogs needs educated. It would be fair enough if coming into contact with dogs was a choice. We have no choice in whether we are subjected to dogs or not. There is no dog free outdoor space anywhere in my town.

Totally agree. No interest in dogs, don't want them near me, or my child, don't want to have to learn to read their behaviour when alternatively their owners could learn to keep them under control.

Spybot · 31/01/2023 23:02

I live in the States and have lived in California, Massachusetts and now North Carolina. All three states have much stricter leash laws than in the UK. I am never able to let my dogs off leash except on my own property. I know it's less fun for the dogs but ultimately it is so much safer. No dogs starting on each other, running up to people and scaring them or knocking them down. It makes dog owners more responsible and it is less risk for the general public. I am always a bit taken aback when I see dogs running around off leash in the UK. You can't be fully in control of them and that's when a lot of problems start.

NC2709 · 31/01/2023 23:03

I think its clear that the people with these dogs won't engage with rules and regulations that most people would deem sensible or acceptable.. so what can be done then?

Maybe an extreme opinion but I do believe certain breeds should be banned..then the people who own these dogs, when and if caught, will immediately have the dog confiscated (and in all probability put to sleep as no idea what you'd do with them all otherwise.. though I'm sure dog lovers would be appalled at the thought). Otherwise how do you decide who gets to keep these types of breed.. (and honestly who actually needs an American Bully XL anyway).

Will never happen as this country definitely seems to overwhelmingly believe that animals rights trump humans. So many selfish owners who don't care about other people in public spaces who may not wish to be approached by their uncontrolled dog, and always with the pathetic... oh hes just being friendly bullshit.. but how many deaths will it require before some form of change occurs?

XenoBitch · 31/01/2023 23:03

Wimbz20 · 31/01/2023 22:56

People on here going on about "signals when a dogs not happy"

Are you kidding me ??? Babies, toddlers and small children and still grasping things like potty training, feeding themselves and playing with play dough and you want them to read dog signals too?? Get real seriously.

No, but any child and dog interaction should be 100% supervised by an adult... and that adult should know dog body language.

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