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Another child killed by a dog

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NeverTrustAPoliceman · 31/01/2023 22:11

Breaking news now. When is this going to stop?

Rip little one.

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Firedgirl · 01/02/2023 14:33

@AlwaysGinPlease humans used to do many things in the past that we don’t do now.
keep slaves, piss in the street, not allow gay marriage etc.

times change.

Sep200024 · 01/02/2023 14:50

@AlwaysGinPlease seems to be fine with little 4 year old girls being mauled to death. An odd stance, but not really a mindset I can attempt to normalise.

XenoBitch · 01/02/2023 14:57

I know that you will come up with a load of excuses for humans to own dogs as pets (not service animals) but I would like to remind you a 4 year child has died. (along with many others and many more disfigured). This is more important than anyone's right to a pet

Sorry, but responsible dog owners (which the vast majority are) are not responsible for this tragic incident. No one is going to look attheir family dog who has never been trouble, who is looked after/trained etc, and think of getting rid of it because of what happened. And it is pretty crappy to think that is something that responsible dog owners should be doing.
They are not to blame. The owners of that particle dog is.

NeverTrustAPoliceman · 01/02/2023 14:59

The parents (not sure if there were two parents) must be beside themselves with grief. But this has happened so many times. A dangerous breed of dog, history probably unknown, in a home with a small child. Surely nobody actually thinks that is a good idea.

It should be illegal to have some breeds in homes where children live.

Nothing will change though, we just wait for the next dead child.

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AlwaysGinPlease · 01/02/2023 15:01

@Sep200024 and @Firedgirl

Hmm yes of course I'm fine with it. 🙄

You're comparing keeping household pets to the horrors of slavery...

Sep200024 · 01/02/2023 15:02

I’d argue against the description of the animal that mauled this child as ‘household pet’.

NocturnalClocks · 01/02/2023 16:27

Interestingly the fatality rate you mention does map on to child homocides. I hope you would support a similar ban on moving a new partner into your home given that these deaths are so often at the hands of step-fathers and they are also an optional lifestyle choice?

Yep, I think that's an utterly selfish thing to do to children, even aside from the risk to them, and I would not support anybody doing that either.

KendrickLamaze · 01/02/2023 16:41

@Sep200024 and what is the description of this dog? The breed has not been announced and is part of the investigation. Have you any further information?

All I've heard is big and brown and with them a few weeks.

If it is a bully, I think blame should lie with the rescue for not assessing correctly and rehoming the dog with a small child and the parents for rehoming a grown dog that they don't have a history of with a small child. It's likely one or the other.

ToBeOrNotToBee · 01/02/2023 16:45

KendrickLamaze · 01/02/2023 16:41

@Sep200024 and what is the description of this dog? The breed has not been announced and is part of the investigation. Have you any further information?

All I've heard is big and brown and with them a few weeks.

If it is a bully, I think blame should lie with the rescue for not assessing correctly and rehoming the dog with a small child and the parents for rehoming a grown dog that they don't have a history of with a small child. It's likely one or the other.

Unfortunately I think the only blame here can be placed at the parents for allowing their young child be unsupervised with a dog that has been in the home for a short period of time.

Cuppasoupmonster · 01/02/2023 16:48

ToBeOrNotToBee · 01/02/2023 16:45

Unfortunately I think the only blame here can be placed at the parents for allowing their young child be unsupervised with a dog that has been in the home for a short period of time.

I agree. They’re status dogs - people buy them because they look threatening and aggressive and they want to be seen as tough. It’s madness buying a powerfully built, large jaw dog with small kids - if you want to buy a dog then get a whippet/spaniel etc. but I’m guessing they don’t look cool and tough enough 🤷🏼‍♀️

KendrickLamaze · 01/02/2023 16:49

@ToBeOrNotToBee I'd say the people who regimes have a duty of care too. The dog couldn't get into the wrong hands without them.

I have no problem with any breed but certain breeds shouldn't be with anyone under 11 and others even up to 15 o would say.

ForestMountainsDesertOcean · 01/02/2023 16:49

XenoBitch · 01/02/2023 14:57

I know that you will come up with a load of excuses for humans to own dogs as pets (not service animals) but I would like to remind you a 4 year child has died. (along with many others and many more disfigured). This is more important than anyone's right to a pet

Sorry, but responsible dog owners (which the vast majority are) are not responsible for this tragic incident. No one is going to look attheir family dog who has never been trouble, who is looked after/trained etc, and think of getting rid of it because of what happened. And it is pretty crappy to think that is something that responsible dog owners should be doing.
They are not to blame. The owners of that particle dog is.

I blame them. I blame everyone that promotes dog ownership, normalises the owning 9f another species, risks human health/life, damages the environment, shits on the pavement.

Ban them.

LastOfTheChristmasWine · 01/02/2023 16:50

According to the Daily Mail, the neighbours reckoned it was an American Bulldog.

They could easily be slightly wrong, though presumably it's a large bull breed.

kitsuneghost · 01/02/2023 16:50

AlwaysGinPlease · 01/02/2023 14:31

@kitsuneghost

You would like to remind us? Very strange attitude there.

Humans have owned dogs for centuries so really you're being daft. At best.

Lots of people are killed/disfigured by cars. Do you also think humans should stop driving them?

My thoughts on cars is irrelevant
This thread is not about cars, there are other threads on dangers of cars.
The fact you are diverting to a different argument is very telling

And because we have always is not a valid argument

kitsuneghost · 01/02/2023 16:51

ForestMountainsDesertOcean · 01/02/2023 16:49

I blame them. I blame everyone that promotes dog ownership, normalises the owning 9f another species, risks human health/life, damages the environment, shits on the pavement.

Ban them.

Totally agree

DietCroak · 01/02/2023 16:56

ToBeOrNotToBee · 01/02/2023 16:45

Unfortunately I think the only blame here can be placed at the parents for allowing their young child be unsupervised with a dog that has been in the home for a short period of time.

With an American bulldog, whether the child is supervised or not isn't the deciding factor. If the dog decides to attack a child then the parent has absolutely no ability to stop it. Why anyone would choose to bring an animal into their home that could kill their entire family is beyond me. They should be banned.

Lockheart · 01/02/2023 17:00

The BBC says the police are still establishing the breed. Whether or not it was a bull breed is at this point unknown.

Cherry60 · 01/02/2023 17:05

ForestMountainsDesertOcean · 01/02/2023 16:49

I blame them. I blame everyone that promotes dog ownership, normalises the owning 9f another species, risks human health/life, damages the environment, shits on the pavement.

Ban them.

Helpful 🙄

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AlwaysGinPlease · 01/02/2023 17:08

@kitsuneghost

Very telling? Is it? Go on then , please do enlighten us all. Very telling of what precisely?

NeverTrustAPoliceman · 01/02/2023 17:17

It was not an accident. Nobody accidentally buys a dangerous dog and keeps it on a home with a small child. The risks were always huge.

BBC describing it as a family pet. The poor little girl would have been better with a couple of guinea pigs.

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Soothsayer1 · 01/02/2023 17:39

how could anyone think a dog like that would make a suitable pet? I feel very sorry for the parents, but at the same time, they must be morons or utterly feckless or both??

kitsuneghost · 01/02/2023 18:58

AlwaysGinPlease · 01/02/2023 17:08

@kitsuneghost

Very telling? Is it? Go on then , please do enlighten us all. Very telling of what precisely?

Very telling as in: I can't find the justification for needing dogs as pets, so I'm gonna talk about cars instead to cause that'll make dogs killing people seem no big deal.

AlwaysGinPlease · 01/02/2023 20:05

@kitsuneghost

It's nonsense. I don't need to justify anything. It's horrific that this child was killed. That has nothing whatsoever to do with dog ownership all over the world. It's called comparison. Millions of people drive cars, some kill people, millions of people have dogs,some, very few, kill people.

Dog haters just love to froth.

Sep200024 · 01/02/2023 20:07

Cars!! Those things which are fully licensed, regulated and insured in order to minimise the potential for danger.

Not the best argument really @AlwaysGinPlease